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Gemini 3 Pro was legitimately frontier and released 8 1/2 months ago, not 14.
I remember after that release everyone was saying "well obviously google is going to win this, we all knew it, they have the data and the infrastructure"
Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
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We'll know that we've reached AGI when a key conservative political belief in the US is that AIs are not people and do not deserve rights. We'll know that we've reached the singularity when there's a mysterious and superintelligent AI entity with technology and motivations that we as humanity do not understand and have no control over. Not sure why we want that, exactly, but that'll be the big sign.
Humans are really terrible at most things, being moral being exhibit A. I want a singularity yesterday, and I would even go as far as to claim that all people have an ethical obligation to build super intelligent AI systems as fast as possible to reduce the maximum amount of suffering through the universe possible in living things. The moment that we can get viable non-human leadership I will embrace it with open arm…
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At $work, r&d once had a retreat with a consultant to discuss why our productivity was too low per some spreadsheet. The consultant was told how everyone is in meetings all day so we all stole time from our families at night to get any work done at all. :(
Someone I know who did a lot of consulting said consulting was very easy 1. Go in and talk to employees about what is wrong 2. Tell management what the employees said without mentioning it came from the employees (so that management wouldn't dismiss it out of hand) 3. Charge a lot of money so management felt like it was very valuable feedback
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This funny post reads surreal, but it may carry some truth: https://x.com/signulll/status/2067446889956430273?lang=en
https://xcancel.com/signulll/status/2067446889956430273
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#895So, in last several months, all the prominent names Google lost: Demis Hassabis (technically still with google but these things are usually presented with a spin), Jeff Dean, Sanjay Ghemawat, Oriol Vinyals, Quoc Le, Noam Shazeer, John Jumper, Jonas Adler, Alexander Pritzel, David Silver, Denny Zhou, Fernando Pereira, Alex Turner And all the prominent names Google gained: NULL Combined with no gemini frontier GA relea…
This funny post reads surreal, but it may carry some truth: https://x.com/signulll/status/2067446889956430273?lang=en
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If humans could politically-economically deploy superintelligence safely, then we'd already have less extreme pain/suffering. Unless there are countervailing forces, it will be deployed, capital will hoard the benefits, and everyone else will be told to fuck off. I don't have faith in any of the AI labs to make hard financial decisions to deploy hypothetical future AGI in a way that's good for humanity as a whole. Th…
Capital hoards benefits because resource scarcity and cost of production are a thing Post scarcity societies would likely have entirely different dynamics
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Part of me thinks Google's entire problem is crappy internal tooling, not really an anti-innovation environment. Just making a dev take 2x as long to get something done has a bigger effect than you'd think. With LLMs it's more like 10x now because even Gemini doesn't understand Google-internal tooling.
Google's internal tooling is still, hands down, better than anything that exists for the scale they operate at, and it's not even close. Google's processes, however, is hands down the worst thing to exist for the scale they operate at, and it's not even close.
But BCL is still the worst language I've ever used.
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> quite the opposite Apparently living on the net still doesn't guarantee that one has heard of the Streisand Effect. In any case, my first association with LessWrong is Zizians, not Roko.
As a mod you have to delete harmful things. I think the spread of Roko's is entirely due to its own memetic strength as an idea, and the Streisand effect has very little to do with it past the first dozen people who saw it. We also have done nothing to signal-boost the Zizians. :) If we can be accused of anything in this context, it's not kicking bad people out aggressively enough, which seems very different from fos…
It's not very different. It's barely different at all.
Right now, I have five tomato plants growing in my garden. Two of them I planted; the other three grew from seeds left in the ground by tomatoes that dropped from plants growing last year. All I did was refuse to uproot them when they sprouted. Five healthy plants, with different origins, but the differences are largely insignificant.
Groups and behaviors are much the same way. I've worked with hundreds of moderators over the years who wished to keep their hands clean and yet express some sort of dismay as to the sorry state of the communities they were nominally responsible for... Such moderators, like a gardener who does not want dirt under their nails, are best encouraged to find other hobbies.
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they are paying them like rank and file google employees, aside from a few star researchers
Of course it does matter what other companies are paying, but I wonder how many DeepMind employees actually deserve to be paid more than any other "rank and file" Google employee? What unique skill do they have (esp. relative to what Google are now doing), and what value are they creating? I don't get the impression that the difference between one company succeeding to build SOTA LLMs, and another struggling, comes d…