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Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

#211

Meta, please go back to publishing weights. Your models aren't top-tier, this wouldn't hurt you at all at your current position in the rankings. They wouldn't have the best open-weight models, but the best western open-weight models.

> the best western open-weight models

If they were sitting on that and could release those, they for sure would. AFAIK, they still haven't released Llama 4 Behemoth, so kind of feels like it's evident what has happened, they aren't able to compete anymore.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they didn't have a financially backed contract with those non-paying users.

This is what the Muse Code launch blog post says: We're also beginning to accept requests for zero data retention. Contact Meta sales to request this. https://developer.meta.com/ai/resources/blog/build-with-muse...

Zero data retention and "we don't train models on your input" are different things.

Retaining data is common for investigating abuse.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of those situations where we are both completely baffled by the position held by the other person. The fact that Facebook has so much experience taking advantage of people's private data is one of the reasons I believe them when they say they won't be doing it when you pay them for that service.

> The fact that Facebook has so much experience taking advantage of people's private data is one of the reasons I believe them when they say they won't be doing it when you pay them for that service. To me, their history suggests that they know more than most about how to get away with breaking both the spirit and the letter of the rules, and that they are motivated to enrich themselves without regard for what rules…

This. Without a massive cultural shake-up and turnover of upper management, why would expect them to behave any differently when they've been rewarded so heavily for this behavior in the past? Meta is ultimately an advertising and data brokerage company -- they make money selling and leveraging user data and behavior and are "bound" by fiduciary duty.

Honestly, I wish the tech community would do a better job identifying the actual individuals who are making these decisions instead of associating them with the brand they're under at the moment, because it's not THAT many people. Like, if you look at only the 100 tech sector companies included in the $NDXT index, how many individuals hold a VP or above title there, and how difficult would it be to trace key decisions at different times made at different companies to the individuals holding those positions there plus board membership and major shareholder identities (with the caveat of known unknowns here) and make a sort of ethical index and trace that along their careers with company moves, promotions, board appointments, shareholder decisions, etc? Go a step further and link that to financial performance and I'm sure folks at quant firms are already ten steps ahead of where I'm going with this, but I care less about profiting off of this data and more about surfacing it to show that it's people and more specifically, specific individuals driving these decisions.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Tibo took care of the reply: https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2085229896968651198?s=20 And someone corrected the Zucked graph: https://x.com/FightForReason_/status/2085398470425219508/pho...

I'm not sure why they even included Opus in the graph. This is effectively a flash/haiku model & should only be compared against Luna

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

#217
It's useless. Tried with OpenCode + OpenRouter and it couldn't complete an simple task. It stuck using grep/search tools. I think Muse Spark was so heavily RL'd on the Meta harness that it make it useless or very token inneficient to use in other harness like Opencode.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

#218
Pointing out for others: without warning I was restricted from using the contributor model because of “policy violations”. I was working on Kaggle research and some Apple Security work at the time. They really need to make cyber a first priority product feature.

`model failed: API error 403 [request_id=27ef1dee-6366-4779-9057-ed7c27686fa9]: Your access has been restricted due to repeated policy violations. (permission_error)`

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

#219

It's useless. Tried with OpenCode + OpenRouter and it couldn't complete an simple task. It stuck using grep/search tools. I think Muse Spark was so heavily RL'd on the Meta harness that it make it useless or very token inneficient to use in other harness like Opencode.

I really liked the contributor model in their harness. I suspect that another harness would fail hard like you're seeing.
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