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Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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In Canada we have a grocery chain called Superstore that posts many products as "Always $x.xx" but the prices have continually been increased over the years. I wouldn't call it a lie but it sure feels dirty and unethical. They used to use the president of the family corporation in all their ads too, but don't anymore and that's probably because he knows they're in the wrong on this and many other things (like the pri…

Ah, my favorite exception to fraud: Puffery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffery If everyone knows it's a lie... well then I guess it's not a lie anymore, is it? I kind of understand why the law takes this position. If you really think about it's hard to imagine how to truly fix this. But it still feels pretty dirty.

Origin of "puff peice", today I learned.

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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Need to sell your info to data brokers

The amount of abuse of free VMs must be absolutely immense even with credit card verification. I’m not sure there needs to be additional secret motives.

They are one step above junk bond status. They have no reason not to.

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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The A1 has been available for 6 years without a rug pull or reductions until now on a very overly generous offering - whatever you think of oracle, it's something else. My instances from 2020 are still running...

it is still a sign that things aren't going well there

Or it could be a sign that they finally found the right customer and the fraction of absolutely wasted capacity is finally coming down!

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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For what it's worth, I am a user of this and I'd like to clear up one thing that is not obvious here: There are actually two tiers of Free here that Oracle offers. Always Free - No credit card required, sign up. This is what the new limit applies to PAYG - You give a credit card, but like AWS and GCP there is a "free" tier for people who are on pay as you go plans. From what I can tell, the PAYG subscribers are not s…

Compared to any normal hosting provider, you'd be paying 50 €/year for what Oracle is handing over for free. Plus you don't need to use the absolute trainwreck that is the OCI web console.

"Cloud" providers are not the only way and you get precisely none of their benefits if all you do is run a single instance, so they're really not a good comparison.

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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Thanks for saving me some time. I wanted a free little server in case my home RPi is down for whatever reason. Not surprised it's too good to be true.

I've been on the free tier 1vCPU x86 / 1GB RAM for years and it was a perfect experience. I recently upgraded to the 4/24, and indeed you need to change to PAYG or otherwise it's out of capacity, but still no problem and within the free limits. For your use case, if the 1/1 instance is enough, I highly recommend Oracle and it's not something I imagined myself saying.

Thanks, that might still be useful for me. I did want more RAM to make it equivalent to my 4GB RPi, but 1GB is enough to at least act as a relay server.

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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I’m mostly fine with this. Their free teir was crazy generous. 24GB of ram for free is a lot. They were a very popular host for free Minecraft servers because of it. Their communication about this change has been pretty awful. It began with a silent change to the docs a month or so back, and a lot of people worrying that they would suddenly be charged. It looks like there’s actually a date associated with the change…

This is the email I received yesterday. I think them downsizing the free tier is perfectly fine. Giving two weeks’ notice before terminating instances is not. But since this is Oracle, I always assumed they’d do something villainy someday, so it’s a bit whatever. --- Hello, We're writing to let you know about an important update regarding Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) Always Free compute. The Always Free compute…

You're getting a free service with real COGS, and the COGS are increasing.

2 weeks notice is entirely reasonable IMO. If I was a paying customer, yes I'd be upset.

But... it's literally free... and it's still free. Compare the new 2vCPU/12GB RAM offering to Linode, Vultr, DigitalOcean, ec. It's still incredibly generous.

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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post #40

For what it's worth, I am a user of this and I'd like to clear up one thing that is not obvious here: There are actually two tiers of Free here that Oracle offers. Always Free - No credit card required, sign up. This is what the new limit applies to PAYG - You give a credit card, but like AWS and GCP there is a "free" tier for people who are on pay as you go plans. From what I can tell, the PAYG subscribers are not s…

> Always Free - No credit card required, sign up. This is what the new limit applies to I don't think this is true. I just tried to sign up and it says ---- Payment/Identity Verification - You will not be charged You won’t be charged for using OCI Free Tier. If you choose to upgrade your account to Paid tier, you will only be charged for services used over your Always Free limits. If you don’t upgrade your account to…

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Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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post #82

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Did "always free" ever really work? When I set mine up months ago, the advice was use PAYG with free tier, because Always Free would always report it had no capacity available. Sure enough, I tested it and this was true at the time.

Trick is to make a bit larger instance, then scale it down to the always free limits - or so I've heard. You might pay a small amount, but totally worth it. That Arm server with 4 oCPU, 24GB, 200GB SSD is a beast, I've had it since 2022. Btw make sure you crank up the SSD speed all the way, as long as it is in the always free limit, you won't be charged for it ... Even though it says you will.

i've attempted signing up for this thing like multiple times over the years and i've never had luck trying to game their free tier. based on all the other comments it sounds like you're SOL at this point none available or people on 4/24 are getting downgraded. maybe i'll try again sometime but i haven't seen any recent success stories

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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> Always Free - No credit card required, sign up. This is what the new limit applies to I don't think this is true. I just tried to sign up and it says ---- Payment/Identity Verification - You will not be charged You won’t be charged for using OCI Free Tier. If you choose to upgrade your account to Paid tier, you will only be charged for services used over your Always Free limits. If you don’t upgrade your account to…

Yep. It's NOT possible to sign up OCI without a payment method now. I signed up late last month and observed the same. Additionally, it's next to impossible to spin up a free instance even if you provision it under the limit. Every single availability zone in the U.S. have all been constantly "emitting out of capacity" errors for free tier resource allocation. Ironically, if you provisioning beyond the free tier, the…

You can't use them on the Always Free tier, but if you have a PAYG account you can spin up free instances (free so long as you stay within the limits).

Re: Oracle cut its Always Free ARM limits to 2 OCPU / 12GB, enforced Aug 18

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They continue to be incredibly generous. 2 vCPUs and 12 GB of RAM is extraordinary for no cost.

Are there any other incredibily generous offerings out there for computer resources? What are the best things that I'm not using?

You could have a look at https://freehosts.eu/; but I haven't tried myself, so I couldn't tell whether it's legitimate or not.
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