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Not just words, you’re massively multimodal! Have a little pride in your MeatNet.
Would be nice if we can take the bat's sonar encoder, train a projector and fuse it into our NN
You probably won't ever be as good as a bat, but humans do seem to be able to learn something with practice.
It would be helpful to define "consciousness". I'm not convinced that i as a human have this "consciousness" thing. In fact, I strongly suspect that i am merely a statistical machine picking words from a learned distribution.
>In fact, I strongly suspect that i am merely a statistical machine picking words from a learned distribution.
This is a completely incoherent statement (which maybe supports your point). How can you suspect that you are a statistical machine? The fact that there is a "you" suspecting disproves the premise.
"To evolve consciousness, an LLM would have to be programmed to evolve consciousness, and to do that, we would need to know what consciousness is and how to program it." I think this article is mostly nonsense. "... But I think continuing the animal comparison will illuminate why "AI consciousness" is not only impossible, but a concept that only makes sense in a religious framework." It's much more religious to think…
"To evolve consciousness, an LLM would have to be programmed to evolve consciousness, and to do that, we would need to know what consciousness is and how to program it." I think this article is mostly nonsense. "... But I think continuing the animal comparison will illuminate why "AI consciousness" is not only impossible, but a concept that only makes sense in a religious framework." It's much more religious to think…
All of these debates were had in the 60s. But everyone forgot them.
"To evolve consciousness, an LLM would have to be programmed to evolve consciousness, and to do that, we would need to know what consciousness is and how to program it." I think this article is mostly nonsense. "... But I think continuing the animal comparison will illuminate why "AI consciousness" is not only impossible, but a concept that only makes sense in a religious framework." It's much more religious to think…
I would think it’s much more religious to think that consciousness could ever exist on silicon substrate alone. All of these debates were had in the 60s. But everyone forgot them.
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I would think it’s much more religious to think that consciousness could ever exist on silicon substrate alone. All of these debates were had in the 60s. But everyone forgot them.
so what part of the aether is needed for consciousness then?
Starting with the synthesis of urea, biology slowly started to abandon vitalism over the course of the 19th century (with maybe a few holdouts in the early 20th?). You'd be forgiven for thinking the concept was dead by now.
Until this current resurgence with these new debates about machine consciousness, that is! We're starting to see late-holdout-vitalist arguments returning (eg: "it's a special physics of active matter", "a special property of biological matter", or even "causally dependent on the specific biolchemistry of its origins" ) .
Note that biology mostly abandoned vitalism because we didn't need it anymore. The reason it's resurfacing here is because there's still a genuine mystery to be had.
From my perspective -pattern matching to the history of biology- the mystery is small, and will likely be resolved in a mechanistic way. Of course I need to be honest: there's also always the vanishingly small chance that this time we'll finally detect an actual vis vitalis.
However, if we define consciousness as something undiscoverable by empirical science, then that's not science or even skepticism anymore, but just another pseudoscience disguised in a white coat.
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so what part of the aether is needed for consciousness then?
Biology actually did have a version of the aether for a while, called 'vital force'/'vis vitalis'/'elan vital'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism Starting with the synthesis of urea, biology slowly started to abandon vitalism over the course of the 19th century (with maybe a few holdouts in the early 20th?). You'd be forgiven for thinking the concept was dead by now. Until this current resurgence with these new…