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From the self-stated bios, this group consists solely of CS guys. No biologist, physicist, linguist, chemist, biophysicist to be found. Based on this observation alone I call nonsense. These is AI bullshittery. These guys aren’t close enough to the problems to understand the challenges. Source: PhD Computational biophysicist turned experimentalist. I work with genuine scientists across a range of disciplines from neu…

Do you actually think that this group of founders will have trouble finding domain experts wanting to work with them?

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I know these sorts of meta comments are often frowned upon, but good god do I hate this approach of fading in every individual element on scroll down the page. It's one of my biggest pet peeves of "modern" web sites.

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There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.

Sure, but almost everyone already knows this. It’s not hugely relevant in a discussion about how things could be better.

It says that we have to fight for whatever rights we think how things "should" be, they're not just gonna happen.

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How do you automate experimentation? Doubtlessly, AI can iterate at superhuman speeds in the domains of thought and design: Software, mathematical proofs, literature search. But in the realm of experiment? Alas it is the lack of a body that constrains it. Rather than transcendence what AI requires is immanence. In the human flesh may we find the godhead living among men. Let the laboratories, warehouses, and factorie…

You can use simulators. However the problem is that if you're for example running material science experiments, those simulations will consume a lot of compute and take weeks, so spamming different approaches in the way an agent tends to work might not work quite as well.

Work for a manufacturing company, and we spend a lot of time creating surrogate models for physical simulations. Huge speed ups, 100-1000x possible. You end up still using the “real” simulation for validation, but you can run orders of magnitude more simulations for early design and refinement first.

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Please add fixing neuro issues like autism add etc on the list. It creates a huge burden on families.

Idk, they never struck me as being into eugenics. What the fuck man? I really don't want some tech startup trying to "fix" my neurodivergence.

Treating autism (and preventing it) is not eugenics. That's a talking point some folks raise, but we're talking about intensely pervasive autism, not neurodivergence. Really, please try to do better in your arguments than immediately saying your opponent is like Hitler.

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Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?

There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.

> The universe has no need to be fair.

Human societies have a strong need for fairness, however. Unfair societies collapse.

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How does this comment relate to the parent comment?

it shows an example of how their AI cannot perform a basic task, as simple as exiting a program.

What has that to do with the comment you replied to, which was about Jeff & Sanjay achieving so much?

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post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?

There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.

I mean of course the universe has no need to be fair - that's a frankly asinine observation in the context of a discussion about social policy and resource distribution.

the universe doesn't require opposition to slavery either but I'll be bold and assume you oppose it anyway

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