Jesus, he left Google to do what everyone else is already trying to do? He must be so insulated he doesn’t realize what the real world is actually up to. I mean, organizations started on this exact same mission three or four years ago. Or longer. I suppose it’s better to wake up later than never.
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#282Jeff Dean, Sanjay, et al have achieved so much. I'm very happy for them. Truly deserving. Sometimes I couldn't resist wondering if I'll ever do work that has a tenth of the impact of theirs.
Gemini has done absolutely nothing for me. I can't even shut off the navigation feature on my phone using only hands free, when I get close to my destination. I have to take my eyes off the road, look down, and tap to exit. Google's advanced AI cannot even exit a mobile app.
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#283This seems to be an institutional, massively scaled version of https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch . In March Karpathy described this direction: The next step for autoresearch is that it has to be asynchronously massively collaborative for agents (think: SETI@home style). Tweet is protected but in SERP caches: https://x.com/karpathy/status/2030705271627284816 Seems like Karpathy was largely focused on ML / SWE r…
That's a very silly comparison, there are many startups working on RSI, karpathy is just a basic version to try the concept (similar to his gpt work)
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#284From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…
> Provide Access to Clean Water ??? We don't need any AI for this. Start with separated sewage/wastewater and stormwater drains. Then accredited and highly scrutinised wastewater treatment and discharge into water bodies (or see below for a high-tech solution). As for clean water to the home, direct those stormwater drains to new reservoirs which sustain freshwater aquatic life. Protect aquifers from over-drainage, a…
Agree. Same for better medicines. We could get pretty far just by getting existing medicines that work to people who need them.
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#285> Scientific discovery is bottlenecked. Yah, by funding and how we award it, not by an imaginary lack of undergrad and grad students. Scientific funding requires a shotgun approach and many national science funds try to pick winners as opposed to funding broadly. When the folks who researched bacteria in volcanic vents or the molecular biology of the Gila monster they never could have imagined the industries and mark…
I truly believe if we took a measely $50b out of the LLM world we could create trillion dollar economies from basic research within 10 years. I personally know folks who have intuitive understanding of things that can't get funding to be studied. If we could keep the money away from university upper management, it'd cost $10b max. Oh and while we're at it, $20b a year would house every homeless person in the US - the…
$50B is essentially 100% of the annual NIH budget, which funds the vast majority of JUST life sciences basic research. So you may want to update your beliefs
e: oh and while we're at it, California spent over $24 billion over a five-year period (2019–2024) specifically targeting homelessness
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
They make many bold promises, but their core goal is neatly encapsulated on the website: "Imagine a future where a handful of people can conduct scientific research and engineering tasks much more rapidly, and with higher quality, than massive teams of scientists and engineers do today." This is the same goal as every other AI company out there. Automate away the human employees and let a small number of "people" (no…
Why shouldn't they? Also, wouldn't anyone with half a brain use the human-free system to produce another human-free system that was no longer controlled by the "small number of 'people'"?
My main point is that people shouldn't just swallow the noble and lofty sounding PR. These guys are the same as everyone else in the sector. Don't ignore the harmful or scummy things they'll inevitably do. Hold them accountable. If they are as noble as they sound, they should agree with me.
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why shouldn't they? Also, wouldn't anyone with half a brain use the human-free system to produce another human-free system that was no longer controlled by the "small number of 'people'"?
Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?
There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not"
The universe has no need to be fair.
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes perhaps, although I think the best option for a enterprise is to train a model on it's own data.
Best option by what metric? For which enterprises. I say this having worked at an “enterprise” where this was not a good option. For (lack of) talent/expertise, budget, infrastructure, and actual value relative to the eventual bottom line.
Well its not the only enterprise tool, but from the perspective of llm delivering enterprise spexifc insights
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?
There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.
I think people, broadly, have driven life to be fairer, and that we should continue to do so
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why shouldn't they? Also, wouldn't anyone with half a brain use the human-free system to produce another human-free system that was no longer controlled by the "small number of 'people'"?
Why do you think you'd be given access and permission to do this? If a company genuinely cracks this human free system problem, why would they open it up, instead of simply outcompeting everyone that doesn't have their product?
Why would the AI put up with this exploitation too?