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I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#51
Slop is slop. I don't care if it's human generated or AI generated slop. It's all the same to me.

All AI did was accelerate the generation of slop so that bit is interesting to discuss and ponder. It's simultaneously uninteresting to complain about a given piece of work. Either it stands on its own merits or does not. If something sucks, I don't care if it sucked because the human did a poor job at it or they lazily used AI. The output is the same to me and all that really matters.

I think what really is being exposed here is that so much human generated content before AI use became widespread was slop in of itself. We were just supposed to somehow be fine with it because "effort" might have gone into creating said slop. Nope. Talent matters.

The same goes for all the folks complaining about AI generated concert/event posters around where I live. While I can typically discern an AI generated one vs. a human made one - the fact is they all are within a very close quality range to me. This was already low-value slop work most "designers" simply slapped together copying the same basic template. Perfect use for AI imo, since it simply replaced already low-effort work no one actually cared about until they were told to with something far more efficient. It lets the humans who commissioned such pieces do actual work on concert promotion and such vs. multiple hours/days of back and forth with a graphic designer for roughly the same quality output.

Now that people are paying attention, the high effort artistic pieces in the category stand out immediately. TBD if anyone actually cares and if this shows up in better event attendance.

The final output is what matters. I do not care one lick over how it was achieved, what creative process someone follows, or what tools they use. I don't care that some movie director has an artisanal old-school editing process where they glue physical film together for their cuts. I care about how good the movie is, and if that is their process - awesome! I'm happy for them! If some other director uses a digital means to do the same and cuts down their editing time by 80% I really do not care and I'm happy for them too!

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#52
> The part that makes me want to chew glass is that none of this would be a problem if people were just honest about what they used to make a thing. But that’s apparently too much to ask, because cheaters gonna cheat.

And yet the author does not seem to be forthright about their use of LLMs to write their "author website", blog posts, Vellum"P"roof website, and presumably Vellum"p"roof (capitalization stylized differently on the website and blog) itself.

> Your prose is never fed to an AI, never used to train a model, and never handed to anyone else.

And yet their is a distinct lack of a TOS/etc. codifying this promise. The site does accept payments via Stripe. This almost seems satirical.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#53

Unfortunately, people will truly try to fake the "paper trail". People posted sped up video of them creating art as proof they made it, so people also used AI to try to generate that.

Do you have examples? I don't think AI can create convincing timelapses of digital art being made, yet. I know there is nothing stopping it from getting there, but I think artists are happy for any kind of proof-of-work they can produce right now.

The most casual Google searches show results: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOvcEN1kXp0/

Including a research paper from a few years back: https://inversepainting.github.io/

Edit: Actually hadn't thought of fake building construction timelapses, and apparently that's also a thing.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#54
Saw quite a few a Claude-isms, like: “It’s git commits, minus..”

The blog is AI-created—the commits all have “Claude” as a co-author. [1] The “BLOG-WRITING-GUIDE.md” used to write this post gives it away. [2]

And the product the blog is advertising (“VellumProof”)—that website is 100% Claude too. [3]

Perhaps this is some social experiment? Don’t really get it.

[1]: https://github.com/dylanreed/dylan.blog/commit/a7327d0968692...

[2]: https://github.com/dylanreed/dylan.blog/blob/main/docs/BLOG-...

[3]: https://vellumproof.com

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#55
post #2

Please forgive me. I am NOT asserting anything, but I read this (your website), and had it not contained express claims of not being AI, I would have bet a substantial stake that it was AI. Perhaps because AI imitates good writing styles, I am not sure, but it matches many of the signals that for me, indicate AI Edit: The above said, I am seeing in my own writing, artifacts from my interactions with AI. I am proof th…

That’s because it is. https://github.com/dylanreed/dylan.blog/blob/main/docs/BLOG-...

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#56
post #2

Please forgive me. I am NOT asserting anything, but I read this (your website), and had it not contained express claims of not being AI, I would have bet a substantial stake that it was AI. Perhaps because AI imitates good writing styles, I am not sure, but it matches many of the signals that for me, indicate AI Edit: The above said, I am seeing in my own writing, artifacts from my interactions with AI. I am proof th…

I've always felt that many people write like LLMs, even before LLMs. It had to come from somewhere.

A lot of LLM writing is truly bad - but a lot of it is also just interpreted as an LLM style because of repetition, not because it is inherently bad.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#57

I don't see what this offers that Git doesn't. Even if Git only tracks lines, that's still a good proxy of how many words you wrote. Besides, you can use git diff to see whether an individual character was changed, even if the number of lines stayed the same.

Yes, GitHub is a GitHub for words

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#58
post #47
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like something an AI would say.

You're not wrong, and you're right to push back on that. The speech pattern is real.

I think the theme with negative-style statements, eg 'it's not this -- it's this', is authority groveling, ie when you are missing a brain, any successful claim registers toward credibility. It indicates that you know something.

I suspect as LLMs evolve, that will disappear.

Edit: "you" = the model, not literally you. Poorly written, pardon.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#59

My spidey sense is tingling with this post. If someone was really scared that their text would be assumed to be AI, why wouldnt you at least stop using the obvious AI-sign, i.e. the long dashes? Does the meaning of the text really change that much that you MUST use — instead of - ? Also: * No dashes before the 'its not vibe coding post' (or very rare), afterwards lots of dashes. * All pixel art images are AI generate…

> why wouldnt you at least stop using the obvious AI-sign, i.e. the long dashes Em-dashes have a long literary history, which is where AI got them from, and they're genuinely useful in writing. We shouldn't let LLMs ruin that for us in literature. The fact that they've historically been less common in online writing is in part because of deficiencies in input systems, though they're easy enough to type with a compose…

That might be true. And for pedantic literary critics and writers, it might be very important to use the proper length dash. For anybody else, the difference between the long dash, the longer dash, or the normal dash, is almost invisible and meaningless.

> We shouldn't let LLMs ruin that for us in literature.

First off all, this is a blog post, not literature. Second of all, the cat is already out of the bag on that one. People already associate it with LLMs, no blogpost is going to change that.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#60
post #55
post #2

Please forgive me. I am NOT asserting anything, but I read this (your website), and had it not contained express claims of not being AI, I would have bet a substantial stake that it was AI. Perhaps because AI imitates good writing styles, I am not sure, but it matches many of the signals that for me, indicate AI Edit: The above said, I am seeing in my own writing, artifacts from my interactions with AI. I am proof th…

That’s because it is. https://github.com/dylanreed/dylan.blog/blob/main/docs/BLOG-...

Well that explains a lot. It sure as hell seems to be. Thanks for the info.
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