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I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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I think the only way to really prove you wrote something is a camera streaming video and audio from a faraday caged room, and a program like this recording each keystroke Then you can upload that to a private repo after each session. Otherwise people make a program an agent can use to type and retype whole sections like a person

That would be a major red flag to me — a pointless, highly compressible stream of images that prove nothing in actuality but are easy to define.

If your work is being confused with AI, think about why. I never confused Trevanian and Martin Amis and Roald Dahl with AI.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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> As I’ve mentioned before, we now live in a world where creative people have to prove they created the thing they created. Do you? Just stop caring. I don't think it makes sense to keep asserting that you're an AI vegan in order to please randos. You'll always get hate creating/building anything online. The people that enjoy your work won't care if it's AI or not or they'll believe you.

A lot of writing publications are so overwhelmed by submissions that they run an AI tool on everything and don't even read the ones that fail (for whatever threshold they think is best). Plus look at the recent backlash against the book where the author according to detectors used about three quarters AI gen. If you do your art for anyone but yourself you care a great deal about your work showing as human and being treated as having soul rather than testing as machine and being treated as witch hunt grade slop.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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> As I’ve mentioned before, we now live in a world where creative people have to prove they created the thing they created. Do you? Just stop caring. I don't think it makes sense to keep asserting that you're an AI vegan in order to please randos. You'll always get hate creating/building anything online. The people that enjoy your work won't care if it's AI or not or they'll believe you.

It's not just other creatives that care, it's consumers. There's a lot of backlash on steam against games that contain AI content. Personally, while I think GenAI has a place, I think this backlash is good. People have gotten way out ahead of their ski's and have gone way too hard on quantity instead of quality. If you use ChatGPT to do research for your book? Great. I bet it's better for it. Did you use ChatGPT to w…

I don’t really care if someone use AI, I care if the result is slop. And it very much seems like it’s very rare for those who use AI to care about the result and avoid producing slop.

If it was bad, the hand produced result will also be criticized, but AI tools distort all the signals that let you avoid slop beforehand. No you need to invest time to recognize the slop and that time will not be given back to you.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#45

If the prose is not the same as LLM, then all is good. It is not that it is bad prose, it is that we read it everywhere. We got LLM prose fatigue.

LLMs still write middling quality prose. Aspects of it are good but they write in a very tropey manufactured style that isn't something we are fatigued of, it's something that's inherently flawed and disliked.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#46
post #10

> As I’ve mentioned before, we now live in a world where creative people have to prove they created the thing they created. Do you? Just stop caring. I don't think it makes sense to keep asserting that you're an AI vegan in order to please randos. You'll always get hate creating/building anything online. The people that enjoy your work won't care if it's AI or not or they'll believe you.

The publishing market has been brutal for many years now: even before AI, there have been multiple stories of angry backlash for any number of reasons causing a book to get yanked before it is even officially released.

With such a small number of people actually buying new books now, the cohort of angry, vindictive Twitter/Goodreads loudmouths has a lot of power and publishers are terrified of them. "Not caring" about them isn't an option, from a business perspective.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have yet to be so-accused, but if I ever am, I'm just going to accuse the accuser of being an AI. :)

Sounds like something an AI would say.

You're not wrong, and you're right to push back on that. The speech pattern is real.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#48

Entrepreneurs of hacker news: Media companies are experimenting with tools that try to detect if a work contains AI. I don't have the domain knowledge to know if that will work, but it seems like the alternative is to have a system to track the provenance of a piece of art or a written work. If you could say that every change was done by party/ person xy then a company buying or licensing it could comfortably depend…

The problem with this idea is that it operates on the assumption that consumers will actually care about "provenance" on art. I just don't really buy that the set of people who care about that will be big enough for artists to care about signing up for some kind of provenance-tracking regime. Obviously there will be some people in that category on both sides, but I think it'll be niche. I have a hard time imagining T…

There seems to be a huge backlash to existing works where AI was detected already at least in my art (creative writing). So I think we already have evidence consumers care. I don't think blockchaining is the solution for the general public, but I'd probably do exactly that if I was taking a university course these days since they tend to be hyper sensitive about AI and err on the side of the accuser so I want strong evidence my writing is mine. Which of course is ridiculously insufferable because I used to do a good portion of my homework in paper notebooks on the subway without stable internet.

Re: I'm Scared a Stranger Will Call My Novel AI, So I Built GitHub for Words

#50

My spidey sense is tingling with this post. If someone was really scared that their text would be assumed to be AI, why wouldnt you at least stop using the obvious AI-sign, i.e. the long dashes? Does the meaning of the text really change that much that you MUST use — instead of - ? Also: * No dashes before the 'its not vibe coding post' (or very rare), afterwards lots of dashes. * All pixel art images are AI generate…

> why wouldnt you at least stop using the obvious AI-sign, i.e. the long dashes Em-dashes have a long literary history, which is where AI got them from, and they're genuinely useful in writing. We shouldn't let LLMs ruin that for us in literature. The fact that they've historically been less common in online writing is in part because of deficiencies in input systems, though they're easy enough to type with a compose…

I agree but it feels like a bit of a losing battle at this point, and I can't help but be reminded of the history of the Sanskrit swastika.
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