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Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#172
post #155

Well, damn. Jeff, Sanjay and Demis leaving all at once, it's hard not to read that as someone fucked up pretty bad.

Hassabis isn't leaving

Ah, you're right. Thanks for the correction. I read that other post too fast.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#173
post #5

https://xcancel.com/JeffDean/status/2085034604172603724 > Announcing Discovery Loop! > I am very excited to announce that, along with my longtime friends and collaborators @Sanjay_Ghemawat, @OriolVinyalsML and @quocleix, we are founding Discovery Loop (@DiscoLoopAI), a Public Benefit Corporation whose mission is to automate machine learning, science, and engineering to accelerate discoveries and progress. The four of…

It's quite interesting that those events are happening at the same moment. I wonder whether they are related

Some do-nothing EVP probably just got control over the Gemini org

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#174
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly his influence is going to be less though. And most likely this is a calculated step to avoid freaking people out, even though he is effectively leaving.

Not at all clear. To me it looks like he’ll be in a position to actually be unhobble DeepMind - reminder DM was sitting on a ChatGPT product for a whole year before ChatGPT got released (LMChat) and Google didn’t let them release it.

if him leaving unhobbles gdm, it'll be because he has less influence...

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is good for Demis and Google overall. This is a promotion for Demis and this could be a path for Demis to be CEO of Alphabet in the future in the AI era. Google already invested in Discovery Loop (Jeff Dean, Orol Vinyals, Quoc Le and Sanjay Ghemawat's company), so what is happening is still a win in investment terms. The question is about Sundar's future at Google, he is a mobile era CEO at Alphabet and I would ha…

I agree sundar will step down but I’m not sure if this means they’re grooming Demis to takeover. I suspect not, and someone else might take over.

Similar to how Sundar was promoted, isn't it more likely to be a promotion from existing leadership (one of the product leads/SVP).

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#177

Everyone commenting here seems to take this to mean he's leaving Google, when that's not what the article says.

Clearly his influence is going to be less though. And most likely this is a calculated step to avoid freaking people out, even though he is effectively leaving.

What? His influence is going to be larger.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#178
post #35

By the article, it looks like he's actually stepping up.

Yeah I actually read this more as them scrambling because Jeff Dean is leaving? Because that is the role he is taking up

There is no way a Chief Scientist (essentially IC) role is more important than leading the whole of DeepMind, 6000 people strong, working on the most important product for the future of Alphabet.

This means Demis wanted a change and to work on other things, it's not Google wanting this.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#179
post #162

This doesn’t sound like stepping down this sounds like stepping up within Google.

It usually isn't, Chairman doesn't involve day to day supervision and decision making. When Eric Schmidt became chairman or Ruth Porat became president, this was more a transition towards less involvement than an increase of impact.

He means the chief scientist part. Before Demis had no influence on cloud, tpu development, day to day dev tools, etc.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

#180
post #65

The first sentence is quite telling >We’ve got amazing talent, world-class compute and products… Products are third on the list. Google is an incubator for talent first and foremost. Products are an afterthought

So then it is similarly telling that compute is second on the list? They have more talent than compute? Layoffs incoming?
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