What happened to the "strike team" that Sergey Brin was leading to try and improve Gemini's coding performance?
They tried so hard and got so far..
Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
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Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#162This doesn’t sound like stepping down this sounds like stepping up within Google.
It usually isn't, Chairman doesn't involve day to day supervision and decision making.
When Eric Schmidt became chairman or Ruth Porat became president, this was more a transition towards less involvement than an increase of impact.
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#163Hugely disappointing and shocking news. Demis seemed like the inevitable successor to Sundar. A move of this magnitude couldn't have been made without consent of Larry and Sergey, so it makes me wonder why from their perspective.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion: Google would greatly benefit from this AI bubble to pop and take down OpenAI and Anthropic.
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
OpenAI and Anthropic have the freedom to do absolutely insane things like negligently hack other companies. It would be stock price suicide if anything even remotely happened with Google.
There's no doubt in my mind that they set up the conditions for their models to escape the sandboxes. "haha oops our incredibly powerful models escaped we need 1 trillion more dollars and really this is yet another reason why no one else should be allowed to build this technology"
It might also be that the security sandbox was haphazardly vibeslopped together.
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#165miss me with the AGI nonsense
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#166"Dean and Google senior fellow Sanjay Ghemawat are starting Discovery Loop, an independent publicity benefit corporation in which Google will be an investor and cloud provider.: Kinsley Gaffe: A mistake whereby a politician inadvertently says something truthful which they had not meant to reveal. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kinsley_gaffe
I don't get what you mean? To me the biggest news is Jeff and Sanjay leaving Google... but then not really, since Google will be "an investor". I guess that's sorta their retirement plan? And is Discovery Loop actually part of Alphabet? So complicated.
Google is just an investor, it's not a subsidiary.
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clearly his influence is going to be less though. And most likely this is a calculated step to avoid freaking people out, even though he is effectively leaving.
Not at all clear. To me it looks like he’ll be in a position to actually be unhobble DeepMind - reminder DM was sitting on a ChatGPT product for a whole year before ChatGPT got released (LMChat) and Google didn’t let them release it.
> DM was sitting on a ChatGPT product for a whole year before ChatGPT got released (LMChat) and Google didn’t let them release it.
Heard this multiple time, to me this is pure history rewriting and post-rationalization. OpenAI also had a internal chat app before chatgpt, Microsoft had multiple, a bunch of other players also had internal chatgpt equivalents + many startups built some using OAI API.
The breakthrough of ChatGPT wasnt because OAI were the first to think of that (absolutely obvious and basic) product, it was because they were the first to get a model strong enough to be actually useful to talk to, vs a mere fun novelty.
There is no evidence whatsoever that DM ever had such a model that they decide not to talk about/release.
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#168End of an era for Alphabet.
I give it a 51% chance of Discovery Loop being acquired by Google
Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs
#169I think there's one weirdly simple reason DeepMind isn't doing as well as OpenAI and Anthropic. I may be wrong on this. OpenAI and Anthropic went from tiny startups to huge companies. As a consequence the stock options/RSU's offered to the employees paid off a far higher percentage ROI than any stock options a DeepMind (and thus Google) employee would get (since Google is already huge). This disincentivizes people wh…
Is this not an apples-and-pears comparison? DeepMind is a research lab, not an LLM-pilled money furnace.