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Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by ragequittah »

kunai wrote: post #112
chneu wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like a mypillow CEO type post. Its insane this is coming from a company with as much scope as openai. Scope may not be the right word.

This should tell you how unserious these "companies" are when they consider themselves the grand harbinger of the one and true "AGI" because their frontier models were able to solve (with great assistance) some sort of conjecture that was never taken seriously in the mathematical world but somehow is significant now because ???

I was wondering where this goal post would shift to next. So now instead of AI being incapable of doing something not in its training data it needs too much external help doing what no human could do, and what it came up with isn't even important anyways.

The companies can suck and their product can do amazing things at the same time.

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

Melatonic wrote: post #281
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #277

OpenAI quotes from iMessage communications between Liu and Peng But Apple's motion states that their communications occurred "through the Line messenger app to avoid detection by Apple" https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.47...

Saw that - what the hell is "Line" messenger? It also does specifically state that they use that to avoid detection (and only between those two people) so they could have been using multiple communication mediums. That document has a lot of more interesting stuff, however. They also talk about an "apple proprietary metal finishing process" made by a supplier - could they have tried to steal Liquid Metal? edit: They a…

> Saw that - what the hell is "Line" messenger?

An Asian super-app with a few hundred million DAUs

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by ergocoder »

bob1029 wrote: post #97
eurleif wrote: post #33

>They now admit that their outside lawyers emailed the wrong person after confusing two Asian last names—only after we brought this to their attention. I find it bizarre that they felt the need to specify "Asian". What does that have to do with anything?

Roughly one in five Koreans have surname "Kim". Upward of 40% Vietnamese have surname "Nguyen". "Li" is quite popular in China. Specifying "Asian last name" in this context is quite apt.

"Wang" can be one of the 2 popular different last names in China and Taiwan.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by apimade »

dgellow wrote: post #250
apimade wrote: post #183

Data theft (i.e. taking corporate IP) was normalised until very recently (I'd say the last 2-3 years with the rise of the adoption of DLP and public litigation). A few examples I can think of thing I've heard _just_ in my own career; terabytes of client data taken by a former consultant, sales reps that joined _solely for the purpose_ of taking this quarter's leads and then ghosting the company, execs forcing the use…

I guess I’m a dummy, I always deleted all cloned repos from companies I ever worked with. I’ve always been way too terrified to keep anything company related

Oh this was on company issued devices, I don’t keep the source code! I was just explaining how this is something that probably should have triggered an investigation, but didn’t.

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Post by duxup »

efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

Open AI has had some strange posts for sure:

https://openai.com/sam-and-jony/

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by duxup »

kunai wrote: post #112
chneu wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like a mypillow CEO type post. Its insane this is coming from a company with as much scope as openai. Scope may not be the right word.

This should tell you how unserious these "companies" are when they consider themselves the grand harbinger of the one and true "AGI" because their frontier models were able to solve (with great assistance) some sort of conjecture that was never taken seriously in the mathematical world but somehow is significant now because ???

I think a lot of what Open AI has done feels insecure and looking for some sort of business validation.

I posted this in another comment but this was weird: https://openai.com/sam-and-jony/

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Post by looking-for-job »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #290
like_any_other wrote: post #172

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You got your crude analogy backwards - it is the calculated, tactical PR-speak that is more like shitting up the public square, than the naive, honest-if-self-serving speech.

Did no one ever explain to you why you should wear nice clothes to a job interview? Or a wedding? Not simply that you should, but why? Conducting onesself with decorum and professionalism in certain contexts is not about deception. It's about respecting other people, both individually/directly, and the communal space. Even if you consciously don't care about or respect anyone else, "everyone else is wrong for not bei…

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Post by frollogaston »

putlake wrote: post #42
jzl wrote: post #14

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I've heard multiple times directly from Apple employees that there is no way to login to iCloud on your work machine using a company-controlled account. Many people create new Apple ID's which they only use while working there, but others just use their personal iCloud accounts. You are, of course, not supposed to store company data in iCloud. But thanks to Apple's own efforts, it's difficult to use a Mac without bei…

I have used a Macbook at work for 5 years without signing into any iCloud account ever.

macOS is generally good about not forcing an iCloud account, but the Mac App Store is the one piece of nonsense that needs it.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by fingerlocks »

pirates wrote: post #209
fingerlocks wrote: post #153

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Are you saying that your employers prevent you from accessing any potential data-leaking avenues? No usb ports, really? That’s an insane level of paranoia. Do you work for the mob or a drug cartel? How do you even compile and debug?

My company locks down the USB ports on our macbooks so that only input devices are recognized. Flash drives and the like are not recognized. We’re a small private company in the telco space so definitely not the mob or a cartel. Why would I need a USB drive to docker build or run a debugger?

Firmware development, IoT, basically anything embedded. Mobile devs that want a responsive debugger. Yubikey authentication. Smart card readers. Remoting into air-gapped machines.

Thats just stuff I do.I’m sure there are many other use cases.

For context, I work for a very large company in Redmond that has a renowned history of antitrust litigation.

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