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Most countries provide between 20 and 40 paid days off

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Re: Most countries provide between 20 and 40 paid days off

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

philjohn wrote: post #57
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't invent microwaves. Well, your lot invented the klystron. Know what a klystron is? No? Well there you are. But I bet you know what the cavity magnetron - invented in Scotland - is. You probably used one today already. Cellular phones were invented in the UK and Finland. The US didn't even have them until the first couple of generations were obsolete here. Transistors were invented in Germany, although they…

also jet engine discovered penicillin

Tarmac, the breech-loading rifle, the first practicable television system even if it wasn't very good, pneumatic tyres...

Re: Most countries provide between 20 and 40 paid days off

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Post by greggoB »

Tade0 wrote: post #40
ChocolateGod wrote: post #4

The US has generally higher wages than Europe and lower taxation rates. Those paid days off are not free.

Switzerland has all that and paid days off on par with the rest of Europe.

I think we're slightly below average with 20 vacation days per year as the legal minimum (compared to 25 on average in the EU?).

Still significantly higher than the US, and with notably higher income/GDP per capita, so indeed it doesn't seem to be some linear tradeoff.

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Post by wao0uuno »

strictnein wrote: post #67
prerok wrote: post #48

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The sick leave has to go through the healthcare system. That said, there are doctors that would just blindly approve, but it's not exactly a norm. A lot of those sick days are also childcare.

Genuinely curious now: If you have a cold or a cough, or maybe a slight fever, do you have to talk to a doctor to get a day or two off of work?

In my country most if not all corporate jobs offer private healthcare plans that let you have an unscheduled online chat with a doctor. You can get one day of sick leave that way. Sometimes two. If you need more you will most likely be asked to show up for examination in person.

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Post by wao0uuno »

vladgur wrote: post #59
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #18

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US inventiveness peaked in the 50s and 60s, when corporate taxes were much higher, education, housing and healthcare were far cheaper, wealth was more evenly distributed, and government investment in infrastructure and R&D was more about delivery than corporate/academic grift. Perhaps there's a reason it has declined since.

100% disagree. SmartPhones, Cloud, AI. Just three things that happened in the past 20 years and were brought to the world by US companies.

World would be a better place without those inventions.

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Post by SubmarineClub »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #18
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you're serious, as a European, I applaud your willingness to hurt yourself so we can have transistors and also have 40 days off each year.

US inventiveness peaked in the 50s and 60s, when corporate taxes were much higher, education, housing and healthcare were far cheaper, wealth was more evenly distributed, and government investment in infrastructure and R&D was more about delivery than corporate/academic grift. Perhaps there's a reason it has declined since.

> wealth was more evenly distributed,

Maybe…of course, those were also decades where companies would comp executives with cars, apartments, vacation homes, &c. Plus other perks like expensing ‘business meetings’ at strip clubs.

Re: Most countries provide between 20 and 40 paid days off

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Post by SubmarineClub »

gweinberg wrote: post #29

Of course, nobody really gets paid for days off, anywhere, ever. Salaries are prorated, people are paid for the days they actually work.

Are you talking about in Europe?

Because at my company, in the US, I am not required to take any time off. I can bank any amount I want and spend it when I prefer. And it explicitly is treated as a paid day of work.

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Post by cassianoleal »

strictnein wrote: post #7
ramijames wrote: post #2

What is going on in the US is nothing short of shameful.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employee-benefits/paid-leave-sick... Could be better for sure, but a graph showing the US as having 0 days of paid days off because the federal government doesn't mandate anything is misleading at best. Average US worker after 1 year of employment earns 7 sick days and 11 vacation days. And likely has some state and federal holidays off as well, and could very well qualify for state require…

11? And that's good?

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Post by strictnein »

cassianoleal wrote: post #78
strictnein wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employee-benefits/paid-leave-sick... Could be better for sure, but a graph showing the US as having 0 days of paid days off because the federal government doesn't mandate anything is misleading at best. Average US worker after 1 year of employment earns 7 sick days and 11 vacation days. And likely has some state and federal holidays off as well, and could very well qualify for state require…

11? And that's good?

Where did I claim that? I stated the opposite. I started my sentence with "Could be better for sure". Maybe something is lost in translation? It just means "This could use improvement".

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Post by [deleted] »

prerok wrote: post #48
strictnein wrote: post #31

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I included them to show that, on average, PTO does not need to be used for sick time and to show that the vacation time is vacation time. > "workers in Europe take about 2 to 3 weeks off each year due to sickness in addition to their vacation" It looks like in Germany it's 20 days a year - https://www.dw.com/en/germany-sick-days-absentees-mental-hea... Are you all really that sick? Shouldn't the availability of lots…

The sick leave has to go through the healthcare system. That said, there are doctors that would just blindly approve, but it's not exactly a norm. A lot of those sick days are also childcare.

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