The US has generally higher wages than Europe and lower taxation rates. Those paid days off are not free.
And the US has the lower life expectancy.
Most countries provide between 20 and 40 paid days off
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> earns 7 sick days Including sick days makes the calculation worse, not better. Sick days typically don't exist in Europe. If you're sick, you obviously just don't go to work. What's the point of infecting the whole office? On average, workers in Europe take about 2 to 3 weeks off each year due to sickness in addition to their vacation. In fact, if you're sick during vacation, that doesn't count as vacation time, at…
I included them to show that, on average, PTO does not need to be used for sick time and to show that the vacation time is vacation time. > "workers in Europe take about 2 to 3 weeks off each year due to sickness in addition to their vacation" It looks like in Germany it's 20 days a year - https://www.dw.com/en/germany-sick-days-absentees-mental-hea... Are you all really that sick? Shouldn't the availability of lots…
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#43The US has generally higher wages than Europe and lower taxation rates. Those paid days off are not free.
> lower taxation rates
eh.. many western countries have comparable taxation rates. That's not true.
Regardless it would be nice to have the choice to work 75% the hours for 75% pay. Not many jobs offer that, though.
Everything in the US is built around maximum value extraction for corporate profits, and I believe this is just another cog in that system.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't take into account sick days, because this article doesn't also.
I was mentioning it because the data does and also to get ahead of people claiming that US PTO includes sick time, when it mostly doesn't.
The point is that it is a limited amount of paid sick days, which is a completely foreign concept in most places (pun intended).
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
The big one on the list that wasn't AT&T was microwaves and that was a contractor to Nasa [0] in the heat of the moon race and a similar "Do stuff. Then we'll see if we can use it" mandate. [0] Defense contractor Raytheon most specifically.
I think that's one thing people truly forget when they ask "Why can't we do things like this anymore?" AT&T paid people to fuck around. Claude Shannon, father of Information Theory, founder of Artificial Intelligence, and namesake to Anthropic's flagship product, was also busy building flame-throwing trumpets and rocket frisbees while creating entire new fields.
So why can't I order a rocket frisbee today? Wtf America.
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#46What is going on in the US is nothing short of shameful.
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The more innovative companies in the US tend to have generous vacation policies.
I think what the article is really about the rest of the country. In Europe, even service industry people get 4-6 weeks off per year. In the US service industry that is unheard of.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> earns 7 sick days Including sick days makes the calculation worse, not better. Sick days typically don't exist in Europe. If you're sick, you obviously just don't go to work. What's the point of infecting the whole office? On average, workers in Europe take about 2 to 3 weeks off each year due to sickness in addition to their vacation. In fact, if you're sick during vacation, that doesn't count as vacation time, at…
I included them to show that, on average, PTO does not need to be used for sick time and to show that the vacation time is vacation time. > "workers in Europe take about 2 to 3 weeks off each year due to sickness in addition to their vacation" It looks like in Germany it's 20 days a year - https://www.dw.com/en/germany-sick-days-absentees-mental-hea... Are you all really that sick? Shouldn't the availability of lots…
The sick leave has to go through the healthcare system. That said, there are doctors that would just blindly approve, but it's not exactly a norm.
A lot of those sick days are also childcare.
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#49Why does it say 0 for the US? You have Thanksgiving, Christmas, 4th of July and more? Are they unpaid days off?
The rest of the world seems to believe that if the government doesn't mandate it, it doesn't happen.
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#50The US has generally higher wages than Europe and lower taxation rates. Those paid days off are not free.
You talk as if you believe low taxation rates are good for low earners.