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Re: Waymo in Dallas

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I believe they paused freeways everywhere because they drove through some construction (or didn't handle construction zones well).

Freeways are back as of just 6 days ago: https://x.com/Waymo/status/2082501792001056984

Oh wow! Hadn't checked in awhile, thanks for the update.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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It ends in 2028: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/24/uber-and-waymo-to-end-exclus...

That's also when the partnership with Rivian really takes off. Uber clearly wants its own fleet of robotaxis; they already unsuccessfully burnt a lot of money on it years ago. Looks like they're content letting other companies take the risk while helping fund them.

Uber also partners with Zoox and Lucid on self-driving, missing this wave may be an existential risk, so they aren't putting eggs in one basket. Nevermind a level of duress due to the Uber/Waymo partnership being (almost certainly) part of a settlement agreement regarding alleged IP theft from Google by way of Anthony Levandowki.

> ...they already unsuccessfully burnt a lot of money on it years ago

It was for the best; the Kalanick-era company culture wasn't (/isn't?) compatible with the levels of public trust required for successful self driving.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Been in a Waymo in SF — impressive tech. But I keep wondering: does the math actually work? Car + all the sensors + maintenance + mapping. Can a single vehicle ever turn a profit?

Are you running your replies through a LLM, or is the LLM producing them entirely?

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Re: Waymo in Dallas

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> Dallasites Is that seriously the demonym? Terrible. Try harder, Dallasites.

I'm with you on this and this is something I brought up on Dallas subreddits before moving here and got downvoted to oblivion.

    "Dallasite" sounds like "parasite". Dallasian/etc. would be better.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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I live very close to LAX, and we have hundreds of Waymos in our area. At first i was a little weary, and kinda weirded out by all of them. They have become completely normal, and cause WAY fewer traffic incidents than human drivers. They are very predictable, and will always let you pull in front of them when changing lanes (unlike a lot of other LA drivers). I have seen a few incidents where they seem 'stuck', and i…

It's very interesting, because on one side we have clear data showing that autonomous cars at the Waymo level are safer than humans. On the other hand we don't give technology the same pass we give to humans, meaning that we don't tolerate machine incidents the same way we tolerate human ones. Which means that self-driving cars need to be a magnitude of order safer than humans. And even though a self-driving car will…

If a human makes a mistake, we give them the liability to own up to their mistakes, and carry the costs.

Most self-driving enterprises are trying very hard to ensure their non-driver continues to carry this liability instead of their company.

This helps a them v. us attitude. The company needs to be trusted widescale by the public, and do seem to undercut their own PR efforts on that, repeatedly.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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post #87

I live very close to LAX, and we have hundreds of Waymos in our area. At first i was a little weary, and kinda weirded out by all of them. They have become completely normal, and cause WAY fewer traffic incidents than human drivers. They are very predictable, and will always let you pull in front of them when changing lanes (unlike a lot of other LA drivers). I have seen a few incidents where they seem 'stuck', and i…

Been in a Waymo in SF — impressive tech. But I keep wondering: does the math actually work? Car + all the sensors + maintenance + mapping. Can a single vehicle ever turn a profit?

Uber rides are around $1.5 per mile on average. Assume Waymo car drives 200K miles over it's lifetime, 3mi/kWh EV efficiently and $0.20/kWh electricity cost. It will generate $300K over it's lifetime and use $13K worth of electricity. Right now it costs $150K to manufacture Waymo car because they are custom built and Lidars are still expensive. Even at $150K unit economics should be OK. But the cost of self driving cars will go down as they are manufactured at larger scale and will eventually approach cost of regular mid-range car. In a few years they will be under $50K per car. Mapping is a one-time cost and the need for mapping will eventually disappear. This will be a massively profitable business for self-driving fleet operators.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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I'm just curious how it works on the legal side: if a human run the red light he gets a fine, who gets fined with a waymo car?

If the car I'm in cause a big damage or kill someone? I guess the damage will be paid by the insurance but whom insurance? Mine or waymos? And what about criminal implications? Insurance doesn't cover thoose for sure.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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post #39

> Dallasites Is that seriously the demonym? Terrible. Try harder, Dallasites.

better than "cityofhate" which is what we're called most of the time.

In all fairness, I've noticed people here in Dallas/TX are indeed more racist than the East and West coast cities, esp. towards brown people.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Divide this differently: - states where the major cities commonly have snow for > 3 months - states where the major cities commonly have snow for Inclement weather is likely the differentiator. Blue state California gets Waymo in its biggest cities, which handily do not get much snow. The other Waymo cities are all below the Mason-Dixon Line.

NYC has Mamdani, who is a very progressive populist mayor, and a longtime (active) supporter of the taxi drivers union. There is close to zero chance it gets approval in NYC before 2030. I'd be totally floored if he goes against the union, but the optics are absolutely terrible for cabs.

Waymo can't launch anywhere in NY state due to state law, but by all means, trot out your favorite whipping boy.
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