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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Police officers are also statistically more likely to abuse their spouses. Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops.

> Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops. I don't see any difference between what you just said and "13-85".

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #151

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Police officers are also statistically more likely to abuse their spouses. Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops.

> Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops. I don't see any difference between what you just said and "13-85".

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Flock seems to be pretty unpopular, internet-wide, in bipartisan tech/very online worlds; feels like 90% to me. Where things start coming into balance a bit more is among the Nextdoor paranoia crowd.

Flock is popular with 1) local police departments and 2) local city councils who don't want to upset the police

It's pretty unpopular with mainly everyone else.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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You know, unless they get a national security letter, or change their TOS, or....

Or their app was configured to let other LE agencies access it without their knowledge in violation of state law (1). Only linked one case but afaik it happened in a number of CA cities. (1) https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/privacy/2026/02/flock-came...

https://www.ilsos.gov/news/2025/august-25-2025-giannoulias-a...

> Giannoulias’ Audit Finds License Plate Reader Company in Violation of Illinois State Law

> Flock Safety Shared Illinois Data with U.S. Customs and Border Protection Secretary, Orders Flock to Shut off Data Access

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/flock-safety-and-texas...

> Last May, 404 Media obtained data revealing the Johnson County Sheriff’s Office conducted a nationwide search of more than 83,000 Flock ALPR cameras, giving the reason in the search log: “had an abortion, search for female.” Both the Sheriff's Office and Flock Safety have attempted to downplay the search as akin to a search for a missing person, claiming deputies were only looking for the woman to “check on her welfare” and that officers found a large amount of blood at the scene – a claim now contradicted by the responding investigator’s affidavit. Flock Safety went so far as to assert that journalists and advocates covering the story intentionally misrepresented the facts, describing it as "misreporting" and "clickbait-driven."

> Earlier this month, there was purposefully misleading reporting that a Texas police officer with the Johnson County Sheriff’s Office used LPR “to target people seeking reproductive healthcare.” This organization is actively perpetuating narratives that have been proven false, even after the record has been corrected. According to the Sheriff in Johnson County himself, this claim is unequivocally false. That sheriff has since been arrested and indicted on felony counts in an unrelated sexual harassment and whistleblower retaliation case. He has also been charged with aggravated perjury for allegedly lying to a grand jury. EFF filed public records requests with Johnson County to obtain a more definitive account of events.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> and stolen I’m sure flock’s agreement with the Winona Police Department makes clear that they are only purchasing a license to use these cameras, so in fact the department’s cameras have not been stolen at all, they’ve merely been prevented from enjoying licensed use.

Why would you think that and be so confident?

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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if you want to tackle the POV of the true believers at Y Combinator*: look, flock can't be that effective if all it takes is a guy with a ladder to defeat it, right? same thing with pervasive facial detection, you can wear a mask. you don't have to go into all this philosophical stuff to see how the promises will not be fulfilled. *Garry Tan has been characterized as a True Believer, in that he sincerely believes Flo…

YC is definitely pivoting into Defense. Besides 9mothers, there’s a list of 22 defense startups accepted into YC just this year so far: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/industry/defense And beyond this there are a number of defense-dependent companies like ProvenMetal (whose value proposition largely depends on a customer’s deep need to do onshore manufacturing) It makes sense. From 2000-2015 it was pretty diffi…

they invest in defense stuff now, that's new!

but. paul graham doesn't like defense stuff. there were plenty of great defense seed investments (palantir), and he runs the best seed venture firm in the world, always has, so his opinion matters. but it was out of a righteous place, it wasn't because he thought it couldn't make money.

y combinator is a much bigger fund now with lots of people in charge. the "2000-2015" era you are talking about: valuations of everything were 1/10th of what they are now. it's hard to make any definitive comparisons about venture trends.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #151

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Police officers are also statistically more likely to abuse their spouses. Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops.

> Don't let the women you care about get involved with cops. I don't see any difference between what you just said and "13-85".

Being a cop is a choice. Being black is not.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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If you've read anything Garry Tan has said, you wouldn't be curious.

Care to enlighten us?

Garry is basically a fascist who thinks that democratic governance ruins society and that instead society should be run by tech elite.
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