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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by nchmy »

autoexec wrote: post #35
accountrequired wrote: post #25

it is bad to see theft of physical property as a good thing

It wasn't private property. It belonged to the people and the people decided they didn't want it. It's bad to see people being forced to break the law to retain their freedom, but it's a good thing that folks are still willing to fight for it.

A handful of thieves/activists are not "the people". A town hall, vote etc... would have the backing of "the people". If that happens and theyre still not removed, then perhaps actions like these might be justified.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by superkuh »

Lets be clear, Flock itself is is also breaking the law and refusing to remove it's camera's from city's properties. The cities, apparently, have no recourse but to cover Flock's vigalante cameras with plastic bags to block their view. This is not a one sided case of illegal property damage and trespass. Flock corporation is acting illegally too. Only no one in government is willing to hold them accountable in a court of law.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by AlotOfReading »

ricardobayes wrote: post #72
reactordev wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Small towns don't want people spying on them. Small towns also are prime targets for pushing over with your federal approvals to force them into giving you their tax money in the name of "safety". Someone got paid.

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Do you have any hard numbers from your community on how many cases had flock as crucial to resolving the case?

When my community banned them, the police were only able to offer a single vehicle theft case as positive evidence, but the data was being sent to police stations and locally unpopular federal agencies clear across the country. We could have spent the municipal budget on giving the victims a new car with far fewer privacy concerns and still saved money.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by yapyap »

semiquaver wrote: post #47

> and stolen I’m sure flock’s agreement with the Winona Police Department makes clear that they are only purchasing a license to use these cameras, so in fact the department’s cameras have not been stolen at all, they’ve merely been prevented from enjoying licensed use.

> I’m sure flock’s agreement with the Winona Police Department makes clear that they are only purchasing a license to use these cameras

License to use but responsible for loss

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by GiorgioG »

rconti wrote: post #92

Does anyone actually know how the data is stored? They seem to _imply_ they're not storing images, merely license plates. Oh, and presence of bumper stickers bike racks and other vehicle metadata to create a unique fingerprint. So are they implying they merely store a descriptive hash, and discard the images? Of course, until the revenue knob needs a little tweak, and they start hashing the human data....

Does it matter? It's stored. If you have the data it can be misused.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by asadotzler »

havefunbesafe wrote: post #64

Maybe I'm overly confident in Flock's ability to triangulate, but wouldn't government agencies be able to know exactly who is cutting down Flock cameras? Isn't that the entire purpose of these things?

You're so close.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Post by balozi »

I hope all the cool people doing all the cool things in current year are not doing cool vandalism just because its a cool thing-to-do that they saw on Reddit in current year. Other cool things cool people are into in current year; Cyber trucks are still on the road, and data centers are still being built.
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