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Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by chasd00 »

ofjcihen wrote: post #4

OpenAIs response: https://openai.com/index/apple-is-getting-this-wrong/ Personally, this reads a bit ridiculous in the face of what Apple is claiming but time will tell.

yeah that is pretty crazy, who is even the intended audience? This seems like something they'd be discussing with their legal team instead of blogging about it. To me, these kinds of public outbursts are just making their hole deeper.

IP disputes between some of the richest corporations on the planet don't get a lot of sympathy in the court of public opinion anyway. Even if they did, what difference does it make? There isn't a sheriff or DA with a public face that has to make a decision here.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #24
alwa wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Future jobs? I thought AGI was the future of work! And plus, their duty is to a higher cause! All humanity needs them to win, so that the superintelligence is “aligned” to their superior values… like “all’s fair in love and war”! (/s) …rumblings of “divine mandate” in there somewhere…

I thought AGI was supposed to come soon? Wasn't Sam Altman saying that it would come last year? I would love to see genuinely demonstrations of these labs different AGI attempts because I am a skeptic on AGI, I'm fine with LLMs.

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Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by paul7986 »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #5

> And, [OpenAI] said that Apple didn’t admit to the claim that the “residual access” allowing former employees to access Apple’s system was the result of poor security procedures on Apple’s part. Sam "I hack others by mistake" Altman dunking on the security practice of others is funny, is there any glass house he won't go to?

Maybe Apple will buy Open AI at a rock bottom price after this lawsuit.

I've used chatGPT voice conversation tech since Sept 2023 and was expecting the new Siri to match the user experience. The new Siri is far far away from matching chatGPT's voice tech. The new Siri is smarter and can now answer your question for anything yet it's SLOWer and you can not have a full conversation with it. I continually have to say "Hey Siri," to continue the conversation on my iPhone 15 Pro Max. Yet with the chatGPT app I can have a full conversation making me think Open AI's voice conversation tech is light years ahead of the new Siri.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by thewebguyd »

christkv wrote: post #38

I might be dense but from what I read I have no idea why any of the stolen documents have any value to OpenAI in the context of their business. Knowing Apples maybe future products etc seems pointless.

OpenAI has been talking about making hardware for a while now, and most likely they are going to attempt a smartphone.

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Post by reticulates »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #5

> And, [OpenAI] said that Apple didn’t admit to the claim that the “residual access” allowing former employees to access Apple’s system was the result of poor security procedures on Apple’s part. Sam "I hack others by mistake" Altman dunking on the security practice of others is funny, is there any glass house he won't go to?

> is there any glass house he won't go to?

The one containing his children, only the nanny goes there.

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Post by solfox »

ipaddr wrote: post #39
nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The outcome shouldn't depend whether they had "poor" security anyway. If I leave my front door locked, it might increase the chances I get robbed, but it doesn't make robbing me legal.

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Laws around breaking and entering date back to WELL before mechanical locks were commonplace or even affordable to residences.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by varispeed »

What is the issue here? Seems like Apple wants to own people. If you don't want employees to leave for competition, pay them well enough so they don't entertain the idea.

It's always employer neglecting workers and then having pikachu face.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by solfox »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #30
datakan wrote: post #6

Really don't like all the drama around this. Should be dealt with in court, not tried in the press. Both sides should learn to remain silent and work the case through legal channels.

Why are you both-sidesing this? Apple is doing it right, simple high level statements. OpenAI is acting like a teenager posting screenshots of literal texts and being overall petulant. This is open and shut. The mature company will win this.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #5

> And, [OpenAI] said that Apple didn’t admit to the claim that the “residual access” allowing former employees to access Apple’s system was the result of poor security procedures on Apple’s part. Sam "I hack others by mistake" Altman dunking on the security practice of others is funny, is there any glass house he won't go to?

“It’s your fault we stole your trade secrets”
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