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Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Why on earth are they not composting it, but instead putting in a landfill and locking it up? What a dumb idea.

Salt... it has lots and lots of salt in it. It's been sitting for 20+ years. It isn't going to "compost" any more than it already has.

I bet you could grow some killer swiss chard with it.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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post #268

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How would you define milk?

Per the 1828 Webster Dictionary: an emulsion made by bruising seeds; as, the milk of almonds, produced by pounding almonds with sugar and water.

This is not the definition supporting the statement that cow milk and almond milk are both kinds of milk. Implicitely relying on different definitions inside a single statement is an example of equivocation.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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> If you want something to compare against, this is like banning people businesses from calling soymilk just "milk". Big Dairy got to you, huh. There’s nothing wrong with referring to other kinds of milk as milk. If anything, cow’s milk should be clearly labeled as such, if we’re following the approach of identifying ingredients properly.

How would you define milk?

White-ish, vaguely nutritious beverage suitable for coffee.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Here in America it’s the same - the people selling the fake stuff (sorry, “plant based stuff”) get around it by using fanciful spellings, that’s why we have “Cheez” and “OatMylk” and stuff. Also a VERY popular one: “Crème” - sounds fancy and French!! McDonalds offers a “Strawberries & Crème Pie.”

The dairy industry was upset about alternative milks and said it has to be from the mammary gland of a mammal to which one alternative milk advocate responds, what do you call the liquid that spills out when you cut a coconut in half?

That's coconut water.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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I wanted to crack a joke that Swede's do like their stinky fermented fish, why not sell to them… But I figured why not see if other cultures might also like it, and was floored with how many there were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermented_fish

Also the article pointed directly to vietnamese culture.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Not being from Toronto, never in a million years would I even think of that as a visitor.

How many visitors do you think would go to a restaurant intending to order a (hamburger) beef patty? The potential for confusion is overstated.

Many people on keto diets do exactly this, as they won't eat bread. I've dined with multiple people who have gone into a restaurant and ordered a beef patty. And until today, I'd never even heard of the Jamaican thingy, which would not be keto-friendly btw.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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post #209

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Obligatory https://xkcd.com/2501/ "The average North American probably only knows about Ackee and Saltfish, and Curry Goat!" "And Oxtail Stew, of course." "Of course!" Does one need to know a variety of dishes from each of the 193 UN-recognized states' cuisines to not be uncultured? If not, which ones are OK to be ignorant of? Clearly Jamaica's a must-have, but I'd like the full list so I can remediate the issue at o…

>Does one need to know a variety of dishes from each of the 193 UN-recognized states' cuisines to not be uncultured? No, but you should know the top 5 dishes of the 10-15 most popular cuisines of the world, at least. That's only about 50-75 dishes; many individual restaurants have bigger menus than that. >Ackee and Saltfish, and Curry Goat! And Oxtail Stew, Yes... I would expect one to know these. At least that oxtai…

I think you're vastly overestimating the popularity of Jamaican cuisine. I've never in my life seen a Jamaican restaurant. I've had Jamaican food at a Jamaican friend's house, it was pretty good, but I'd never heard about their beef patties until literally today just reading about them on here. If you live in a part of the world where it's more prominent, good for you, but not everybody does.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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After 20 years this hasn't completely rotted and scentless? I need to read the article.

If the goo is too salty, probably bacterias can grow enough to eat the cause of the bad smell, in particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylamine From a random google search I got this report https://uvadoc.uva.es/bitstream/handle/10324/18877/TFG-I-468... (mostly in Spanish, with an English abstract). It looks serious and as far as I understand it makes sense. They recommend to add iodine to burn/oxidize the…

Toooo late to edit:

> probably bacterias can grow enough

> probably bacterias can _not_ grow enough

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Did you know in Germany it's illegal to call a product "soy yoghurt" because yoghurt is a dairy product?

Here in America it’s the same - the people selling the fake stuff (sorry, “plant based stuff”) get around it by using fanciful spellings, that’s why we have “Cheez” and “OatMylk” and stuff. Also a VERY popular one: “Crème” - sounds fancy and French!! McDonalds offers a “Strawberries & Crème Pie.”

As long as people’s preferences are respected and they are not misled buying a plant-based product when they wanted an animal-based one and vice versa I find this kind of name reservation a misguided approach. We always had peanut butter for example, almond milk was always almond milk.

Just make sure I don’t run the risk of exposing my sophisticated Italian descended taste buds to some trash soy-based simulacra product due to deceptive packaging and I really don’t care if they call it cheese, milk or whatever.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Anecdote: I asked for the "mushroom burger" on their menu at an airport years ago -- I didn't want meat and it had nothing indicting meat in the listed ingredients that I checked -- and they brought me a hamburger beef patty with mushrooms on top. Imagine both of our surprises when they brought me the plate and I was like uhm I think that's another table's order? Well it turns out, at least to that restaurant (idk ab…

If I ordered a mushroom burger (especially as my preferred “mushroom and Swiss burger”), I’d be surprised if it came without the beef patty (the burger part). It’s not that I can’t understand that the other exists, but my brain is wired to think of mushroom as a topping/adjective and burger as the noun.

I've seen the meat version plenty of times too, it's not like I couldn't understand that either. That was the entire reason I checked the ingredients, which had never failed me until then. Restaurants normally list something about the meat if it's there... but not always.

Which I point out here because there are people saying "just check the ingredients" and, no, this clearly happened despite that.

And which I also point out because the same people arguing "just check the ingredients" would get mad (possibly even more so) if you actually agree and decide to require reliable ingredient lists.

P.S. The top result I see for "what is a mushroom burger" on Google is meatless: https://www.recipetineats.com/swiss-mushroom-burger/

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