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Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by cvak »

putlake wrote: post #42
jzl wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard multiple times directly from Apple employees that there is no way to login to iCloud on your work machine using a company-controlled account. Many people create new Apple ID's which they only use while working there, but others just use their personal iCloud accounts. You are, of course, not supposed to store company data in iCloud. But thanks to Apple's own efforts, it's difficult to use a Mac without bei…

I have used a Macbook at work for 5 years without signing into any iCloud account ever.

I suppose this is harder when the company hosts everything in icloud though...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by kubb »

onion2k wrote: post #75
kubb wrote: post #61

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They spend a lot of the investors’ money on that. All the videos they put out are extremely high quality. They literally have communication experts sitting there, breaking their heads over how to influence the public opinion in the company’s favor. I guess they learned it from Elon: if people like you, they’ll just hold your stock forever, even if you don’t make much money.

Every company does that. It's literally a whole industry: Public Relations

Not to that extent though. For OpenAI the PR investment is disproportionate.

Regular companies have people that talk to the media or maybe run some ads. OpenAI is trying to have in-house media.

For a frontier lab it’s striking just how much energy (and dough) goes into this.

You’re right of course that PR exists elsewhere, but that obviously true assertion misses the finer details of how PR works at OpenAI. In doing so it functions as a thought-terminating cliché.

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Post by rickdeckard »

-0_0- wrote: post #53
dannyw wrote: post #23

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Apparently Apple encourages their employees to use their personal iCloud accounts for company information, because their own OS doesn't support one iPhone, multiple iCloud identities. Source: https://appleinsider.com/articles/26/08/03/confidential-appl... So yeah.

Always found it odd that Apple don't let you have a second separate business profile to switch your phone to for work - especially when you don't necessarily want to be bringing browser history/personal apps into your workplace or wifi. Having your iphone locked to your personal account also hobbles their continuity features if you work on a business computer with its own work account (as most businesses do). Faceboo…

however, it is quite neat for Apple if employees are "voluntarily" giving up their privacy by merging their accounts and indirectly allowing Apple to monitor their whole digital identity.

Apple is then "just" monitoring the corporate user account for security reasons, it was the employee who decided to use the same account for private purposes...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by like_any_other »

efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

It reads direct and unrehearsed, instead of like something where all humanity has been sanded off by legal and PR departments.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by yreg »

efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

Ironically (?) I am immediately reminded of Steve Jobs by reading the first paragraph.

Specifically Thoughts on Flash, but there were probably more such press releases.

[0] https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/web-design-history/steve-job...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by StrangeSound »

asimpletune wrote: post #92

What really matters is the claim that Apple never raised those issues in the lawsuit with them. OpenAI claims the emails prove this, but to me all the emails prove is Apple sent an email that said “please see the attached letters”. We don’t know what is in the attachments but I imagine those were the relevant issues they raised. Moreover OpenAI says, “[Apple] now admits that Apple employees reached out to him and ask…

I was a bit confused too initially, but it looks like Chang was asking for the data to be copied _off his iCloud_ by the existing employee on his final day of employment. And then everything after that is just the existing employee asking for help on things Chang had prior knowledge of

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by Melatonic »

efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

Probably asked Siri to write it

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by actionfromafar »

like_any_other wrote: post #124
efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

It reads direct and unrehearsed, instead of like something where all humanity has been sanded off by legal and PR departments.

:-D Yet, it's signed "OpenAI".
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