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Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by nerdalytics »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #480
TacticalCoder wrote: post #47

> In this case, Qwen3.8-Max was asked to create the oh-my-cli project from scratch and, over a 10+ day long-horizon autonomous coding run, build a self-evolving harness. They don't explain how successful that went but it's a bit hilarious seen that an Anthropic dev explained that it's been 15 days Claude was hard at work --with nothing to show yet-- trying to rewrite itself in another language. "You rewrite Claude Co…

Where did you read that Anthropic are experimenting with rewriting Claude Code?

It's a rewrite of Claude Desktop from Electron to SwiftUI as Theo 3G said in one of his last videos.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by pennomi »

mdp2021 wrote: post #339
gilgoomesh wrote: post #133

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> lack of European competitors There's Mistral. Although they've been surprisingly quiet for the last 6 months.

> There's Mistral https://trackingai.org Mistral: eq.IQ ~70 Kimi, Claude, Grok, Gpt, Gemini: eq.IQ ~130+

Yeeeah, if the test on this site can’t say anything better than “it was created by a member of Mensa”, I’m gonna have to assume it’s a generally useless test.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by AbsurdCensor »

dgellow wrote: post #572
AbsurdCensor wrote: post #465

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Takes even less depending on your system. LM Studio or Lemonade and you are set up in minutes and now they can even tell you what models will fit with the memory you have.

And it would be in seconds if models weren’t that large and slow-ish to download! LM studio is such a noob friendly experience, pretty neat first experience!

At least for the most part, if you are downloading from huggingface, you should be able to saturate your connection. I know I usually can pretty easily even with a 5gig connection at home.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by DANmode »

ilaksh wrote: post #548
DANmode wrote: post #538

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I thought this comment was going to be about leveraging agents in ways your existing clientele demographic cannot or will not (yet|ever), but then you totally jumped the shark!

Can you give me a hint about wtf you are talking about?

Use AI to speed up your own existing workflows that were working.

Advertise that you’re there to fix AI slop attempts (you can rebuild it from scratch if you have to).

You may not have the juice to sell great shovels in a gold rush.

You also may.

Just…be sure.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by mdp2021 »

pennomi wrote: post #602
mdp2021 wrote: post #339

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> There's Mistral https://trackingai.org Mistral: eq.IQ ~70 Kimi, Claude, Grok, Gpt, Gemini: eq.IQ ~130+

Yeeeah, if the test on this site can’t say anything better than “it was created by a member of Mensa”, I’m gonna have to assume it’s a generally useless test.

The tests are detailed on the site. And your logic is faulty.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #595
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #593

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Well, yeah, the straight multiplication, er, well, "follows" from the rule of thumb. Hope that helps!

Saying, well a rule of thumb is, well, 100 billion bytes is a 100 gigabytes, is well, not a rule of thumb. It is, well, just the common definition.

Right. The rule of thumb is that the overhead size of the model that's not the weights is so vastly outweighed by the actual number of weights that it can be disregarded. My shorthand for that was to write "the weights take up ~100% of the size of the model". What then "follows", both in the sense that the explanation is written after the rule as well as that it logically follows, is that, well, 100 billion bytes is, you know, 100 GB. I don't see why you're, like, paying so much attention to this?

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by [deleted] »

jiggawatts wrote: post #579
Forgeties79 wrote: post #458

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> Local: Typical scenario is hours just to download the software, the model weights, and then faffing around with CUDA and matching your GPU drivers. Download LM studio, search models, click download, wait minutes, prompt and have fun

“If you have the prerequisite hardware, then… know which model you want out of thousands of a variants… and your drivers are up to date, then it is fast!”

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Post by Fluorescence »

thecopy wrote: post #263
sparkling wrote: post #260

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Is it? OpenRouter shows DeepInfra being cheaper than DeepSeek directly https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-20260731#pr...

I agree with parent. OpenRouter might be cheaper list-price, but i have been using 10$ on DS platform since April/May, still have 2$ left. Using OpenRouter i depleted the same dollar-amount in a 1-2 weeks with same usage pattern. No idea why.

Not used it but from perusing forums, consensus is OpenRouter has terrible/broken caching for Deepseek wildly inflating token use. The cache metrics are visible so you can verify for yourself (apparently, it's what others have done).

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by wei_b0 »

Alifatisk wrote: post #152
wei_b0 wrote: post #94

is it the right time to perhaps switch to QwenCode ? i might end up cancelling claude, anybody else thinking of the same ?

Already done it. But switched to Codex instead. See you on the other side buddy.

I use codex as well but the limits have become absurd though - end up spending weekly budget in like 2 max 3 days
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