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Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork
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#152is it the right time to perhaps switch to QwenCode ? i might end up cancelling claude, anybody else thinking of the same ?
Already done it. But switched to Codex instead. See you on the other side buddy.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
What laptop?
It's just a MacBook Air with an M4, cheap and nothing special. I host Qwen on my Mac Studio, an M1 with 64gb ram. The model uses around 20-25gb ram depending on what it's doing.
I wonder if I could get this running on my 48gb M4 Pro. Haven't been able to load anything beyond 27B
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#154It was a matter of time for China to catch up with the US. In terms of infrastructure, manufacturing, and engineering workforce, China has the upperhand and I foresee them becoming the SOTA leaders. Maybe if the US wasn't so busy gatekeeping and keeping things proprietary, they would've had more trust from the open source community.
Also give it to Chinese labs for the vision of going open source and open models to compete. Apart from their great models, I quite like how they publish papers of their research too.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if the US does ban it, Europe due to its lack of European competitors, has no current similar protectionist incentives. Even if there is regulatory capture in the US, the rest of the world isn't going to follow suit until the current market leaders outright are replaced with other competitors that Europe would want to favor. The genie is out of the bottle in the West already.
I mean there is Mistral?
I mean it’s not competitive at all?
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
What can the US administration do about it?
Level 1: Anyone using unauthorized model weights in their business is prohibited from doing business with the government... Level 2: ... or with anyone who does. Level 3: Anyone caught with unauthorized model weights is subject to the same prosecution they could expect if they had been caught with CSAM.
Cool - how are they going to detect/police that?
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#157Once OpenAI and Anthropic are public, every such announcement will become a reliable sell signal
Agree, I don't necessarily see a strong argument favoring OpenAI or Anthropic here. In the interest of perspective, can anyone (perhaps playing devil's advocate) give one? The open models are now good enough for what I want to do with them, let alone any future improvements. And factoring in efficiency gains, a model in the ~70b range starting to satisfy my needs would completely obviate the need to pay others for in…
Seems to me OpenAI and Anthropic are kinda following the Apple business strategy. Those two offer a premium service that gets better results and works more seamlessly. I.e. the integration between Anthropic models and Claude Code is apparently nice and gets better results, and I've heard anecdotally that Codex is currently the best.
So just like in IPhone vs Android, you could end up with a situation where Chinese firms compete and get most of the revenue and usage with low profit margins but OpenAI and Anthropic capture a premium side of the market and still get a lot of profits.
Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork
#158Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork
#159So the news here is that this model left the preview stage, and they are also releasing an open-weight version of the Max series for the first time.
You can always try out this model for free on Qwen Chat. Alibaba Cloud has too much friction for me.
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#160they release new qwen model every two weeks?