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Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Well, there will at least be historians in other countries covering the downfall in detail, if there is indeed a bigger downfall than has already happened. Democracies are pretty good at studying the failures of other countries and learning about them.

‘and learning about them’ I’m not at all convinced about this part.

To be fair, they said learning _about_ them, not learning _from_ them.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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It is the government equivalent of El Muskito buying Twitter and then wantonly disabling components with the assumption they do nothing.

Except no one died because Twitter malfunctions here and there.

TBF the companies that failed to contain the disease are at fault, not the agency.

You can't reasonably expect government to protect everyone from everything.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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How important to your diet is that lettuce? Do you want to get fat eating bread all the time or can you stick your burger on that lettuce leaf? Done. The header is the standard, which allows us to even have this conversation about tracking sources.

Not really. Lettuce has virtually zero nutritional value.

Which is a benefit in itself, it adds texture and is inoffensively flavoured (hell on the right day or if I haven't drank enough water yet it can taste great). All without adding many calories to the meal. It's also a much cheaper alternative than ozempic for those of us who don't have the consistent willpower to not treat ourselves to more food when we're hungry even if we know we have all the calories we need.

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You think an agency with less people can more capably do its job? Come on now.

Whenever I work for large corporations or government I wanna blow my brain how slow things move. Literally days work in a month.

Yes, small teams can be more productive.

I've took a ~2x pay cut just not to sit in those unproductive meetings and grind instead.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Except no one died because Twitter malfunctions here and there.

TBF the companies that failed to contain the disease are at fault, not the agency. You can't reasonably expect government to protect everyone from everything.

How would we know which companies to blame without organizations like the CDC?

What would they even be blamed for in the first place if there were no regulatory expectations for them to adhere to?

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Maybe, but going by that 5% of the population have severe food allergies and only ~1% use wheelchairs, so if we accept wheelchair ramps etc. as being a worthwhile investment (which I do) then proper labeling and disclosure of allergens seems reasonable as well?

The labeling and disclosure is pretty much solved. The killer and the cost monster is the handling. That's why you see that "Processed in a facility that also processes XYZ" label on some foods. I had an old coworker with a severe milk protein allergy. So bad that he would get a reaction if he (lip) kissed his wife after she drank milk or had ice cream. So eating out was basically impossible, because his food would p…

My friend is less sensitive and so just accepts the risk of cross contamination in restaurants, but she chooses restaurants which don’t really use much of her allergen and tells the kitchen so they can take precautions. It’s really about risk reduction.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Except no one died because Twitter malfunctions here and there.

TBF the companies that failed to contain the disease are at fault, not the agency. You can't reasonably expect government to protect everyone from everything.

To be fair to whom exactly? The organization tasked with disease protection and which claims they exist for "saving lives"?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> The CDC Has a Cyclospora Lab. DOGE Downsized It Last Year [1] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/cdc-cyclospora-lab-doge-downsize...

DOGE will be seen by historians as the cause of so many crisis…

DOGE is simply a tool of global capital, and shouldn't be singled out as the root cause of anything. Its purpose was to cut money from being redistributed through government programs, so it could go to the financial markets instead via tax cuts for the wealthiests and inefficient defense contracts. It achieved its goal wonderfully.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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I’m very sorry to hear that, but I don’t think restaurants have to be forced to deal with that. The only thing I could support is “if revenue >X then allergen disclosure is mandatory”. I know personally multiple little shops that had to refuse customers, because that’s extra hassle and responsibility that they can’t afford to deal with.

They manage fine in Europe. It’s a cultural issue. If you can’t be arsed working through the minor administrative hassle once (how often do you change the menu..) to not kill your customers then you shouldn’t be in this business.

They manage fine in China/Japan. It’s a cultural issue. People aren’t dropping dead from not being catered for their allergies.

Look, i’m not some sort of a devil that hates people with allergies. Roughly 15% of my closest friends have dietary restrictions. But we kinda understand the problem and navigate it ourselves, rather than making it someone else’s problem. Really not a big deal.

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