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Don't be a meat proxy

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Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Organisations typically divide up responsibilities between different teams, and also between different members of each team.

So, people are using AI to answer questions about tribal knowledge? Is that really the assertion which is being made here? Because I find that hard to believe.

Yes, it can get that bad

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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If you create a machine for laziness you're going to get lazy people. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?

No. I think it'll mostly cause a dip in the average intelligence of knowledge workers.

We will recover when we realize the valuable workers in a field are the ones who want to be there and actively increase their knowledge rather than offload work.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Because I wanted to ask a human who’s job it is to know, instead of an AI that might make things up and waste all our time.

Why is it their job to know, but it's not your job to know?

If you decided at the outset they're of equal value to a $20/mo AI, lay them off.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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My VP boss calls me 6 times a day to help him understand his copilot responses and asks why we aren't doing what copilot says we should do. I then have to spend multiple hours explaining why. His peers call him to understand their copilot responses which he then copilots and calls me to help interpret. On and on and on

Sounds to me like developer jobs are not going away after all. Somebody needs to understand what the AI communicates. Sounds more like job security to me.

Being a priest or imam is a job for life. I think i agree.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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I think a lot of that is people who were always very insecure because they’re mediocre engineers. Previously asking questions or not understanding something was a bit painful but now you can hear “you’re absolutely right!” and make progress all day every day. Until you need to interact with actual humans and that’s why you try to minimise it, hiding behind ai generated content.

I’m not a developer, but when I watch devs whose work process is prompt, copy-paste, try to run, paste error into code, try to run, etc. I can’t help but think they’re unskilled. There’s no brain engagement, no understanding of the bigger picture, just being a worse slower agent.

I'm not a dev and that's exactly what I do but I also have absolutely no skill in coding, and am not paid...

People doing that will be replaced, in best case scenario, by cheap labor, and worst case by computers.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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post #349

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My giddy aunt. Oh, for the testing required by any customer of any software vendor any time from now to forever more, as a result of the possibility of this level of irresponsible outsourcing of brain. Enshittification is a new word/concept, but it seems we've already reached the potential for enshittification squared.

> enshittification squared I thought AI is an exponential?

a sigmoid as in sigmoid colon

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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I think the "meat proxy" people are mediocre regardless of whether or not the were brilliant pre-AI. They've reduced themselves to a copy-paste go-between for claude and slack (or github or jira or whatever) and are mediocre now. If only they could turn back the clock...

Some skills are easy re-pick-uppable, like bicycling. Mathematics is probably more challenging. Not sure about programming, especially "borint" business-like programming.

Nah.

After you have those skills, they don’t go away.

Math: the most important stuff is the biggest picture. If you learned it properly (not just memorizing), that’s the last to fade.

With programming, the details change but the fundamental skill doesn’t. Or hadn’t as of a few years ago.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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I think the worst is when they are skilled. You're basically describing my work day. My job went from interesting, highly skilled work to mostly horrible brain rot over the past year. It's depressing and I don't know a way out. Other then a complete career change, throwing away 30 years of experience and a matching salary.

Kids, young folks, anyone reading: this is golden handcuffs. If you’re unhappy, make a change .

Well, I am reading it and I hope I manage. It's pretty scary to leave behind what I've excelled in all my life but it is the only way forward for me.

So thanks for the encouragement :).

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