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Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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optimistic, this requires the arc of history to bend towards non-fascism.

Fascism always collapses, the question is only how much will remain by the time that occurs.

And whether or not what replaces it is any better. Historically speaking, widespread democracy is still a recent development.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Do you also think businesses shouldn’t need to be “forced” to deal with accessibility? Web devs shouldn’t be forced to deal with accessibility either right?

This is a dumb conversation because the landscape of the discussion is one where the costs increase exponentially as the disability being serviced becomes more rare, and there isn't an objectively correct answer.

Maybe, but going by that 5% of the population have severe food allergies and only ~1% use wheelchairs, so if we accept wheelchair ramps etc. as being a worthwhile investment (which I do) then proper labeling and disclosure of allergens seems reasonable as well?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside of such a time of crisis (since this lab seem dedicated solely to outbreaks, not research), which is when the parent entity should temporarily allocate more people.

> From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside I hope I never have you as my manager If you think a ~70% reduction in head count isn't outrageous.

I've worked along scientists a few times, many twiddling their thumbs and coasting along on the back of their PhD. No idea if this applies here, mind you, but I don't see an innate need for that many people, even if this disease has major outbreaks (let's say > 50 cases) every few years.

3 does seem a bit low, though.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Do you also think businesses shouldn’t need to be “forced” to deal with accessibility? Web devs shouldn’t be forced to deal with accessibility either right?

Web devs aren't forced to deal with accessibility either, unless they choose to work with or for an entity that requires it. No one is coming for your self-hosted blog because its not ADA-compliant. But if you want every restaurant to be forced into labeling, you will see the small restaurants claim all the allergens are used and they cannot protect against cross contamination.

The FDA prohibits blanket labeling of allergens. They might be able to get away with it but it wouldn’t be legal.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> The CDC Has a Cyclospora Lab. DOGE Downsized It Last Year [1] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/cdc-cyclospora-lab-doge-downsize...

From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside of such a time of crisis (since this lab seem dedicated solely to outbreaks, not research), which is when the parent entity should temporarily allocate more people.

While you're at it, give AI to the 3 employees and they will do the work of 30 /s

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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optimistic, this requires the arc of history to bend towards non-fascism.

Fascism always collapses, the question is only how much will remain by the time that occurs.

What definition of fascism are you using? Is China fascist?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside I hope I never have you as my manager If you think a ~70% reduction in head count isn't outrageous.

I've worked along scientists a few times, many twiddling their thumbs and coasting along on the back of their PhD. No idea if this applies here, mind you, but I don't see an innate need for that many people, even if this disease has major outbreaks (let's say > 50 cases) every few years. 3 does seem a bit low, though.

> I've worked along scientists a few times

You should have mentioned this up front so we all knew you were fully qualified to understand the staffing needs of critical governmental health organizations.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside I hope I never have you as my manager If you think a ~70% reduction in head count isn't outrageous.

I've worked along scientists a few times, many twiddling their thumbs and coasting along on the back of their PhD. No idea if this applies here, mind you, but I don't see an innate need for that many people, even if this disease has major outbreaks (let's say > 50 cases) every few years. 3 does seem a bit low, though.

Impressive judgment from someone who presumably has no knowledge of the types of problems the lab was addressing, the scope of research, the actual individuals employed, or the prior and anticipated impact of their work. This was the whole problem with DOGE: cuts were indiscriminate and based more on feels than factual data. I won't posit that those cuts were all downside - but we will be paying to discover which were really needed for years to come.
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