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Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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What would make you think this would have prevented the incident?

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Hasn't happened before, suddenly happens now after the cuts. It's not too complicated. People are dying and people have died. The new administration must collect all available evidence and then submit to grand juries for prosecution.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Are food labels required to identify where they're sourced from? I don't think so?

The new QR codes (to replace the 2D UPCs) that manufacturers and merchants are moving to will contain source information and even which lot it came from.

USDA inspected foods already carry markers with lot codes and factory identifiers. That is how food traceability works right now. Those values are pretty opaque to consumers though. The new 2D barcode rules seem to suggest that there will be a human readable value for the "Plant" that worked a food item, but I'm having difficulty cross referencing how this actually plays out. My reading is that the human readable value is only necessary for the next step in the chain, so a packaging company can partially obscure the human readable location value for the harvester, for example, though they will have a Plant code identifier of some sort.

If companies have a way of obscuring this info to end consumers while still meeting FDA obligations, they absolutely will, as they currently do for things like the information for companies who "Make" products right now, which are often holding companies meant to obscure business relationships.

Oh, and any human readable value will be obscured behind a QR code anyway, so all the humans who already do zero investigation to understand where their stuff comes from will continue to have no extra information.

Strict labeling laws around protected terms is an essential thing because so many people read nothing more than the packaging itself when shopping. All chicken lists "No hormones" as an advertisement despite that being law and no chicken sold will ever have those hormones.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> The CDC Has a Cyclospora Lab. DOGE Downsized It Last Year [1] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/cdc-cyclospora-lab-doge-downsize...

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Do you think that cutting funding to a lab would improve or hinder its ability to react to an outbreak like this one?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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I’m very sorry to hear that, but I don’t think restaurants have to be forced to deal with that. The only thing I could support is “if revenue >X then allergen disclosure is mandatory”. I know personally multiple little shops that had to refuse customers, because that’s extra hassle and responsibility that they can’t afford to deal with.

Do you also think businesses shouldn’t need to be “forced” to deal with accessibility? Web devs shouldn’t be forced to deal with accessibility either right?

Web devs aren't forced to deal with accessibility either, unless they choose to work with or for an entity that requires it. No one is coming for your self-hosted blog because its not ADA-compliant.

But if you want every restaurant to be forced into labeling, you will see the small restaurants claim all the allergens are used and they cannot protect against cross contamination.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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You think an agency with less people can more capably do its job? Come on now.

Just wait until 1 of those 3 employees left has surgery and needs FMLA, or out on maternity leave. Then it'll be even more capable. /s

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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optimistic, this requires the arc of history to bend towards non-fascism.

Well, there will at least be historians in other countries covering the downfall in detail, if there is indeed a bigger downfall than has already happened. Democracies are pretty good at studying the failures of other countries and learning about them.

‘and learning about them’

I’m not at all convinced about this part.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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DOGE will be seen by historians as the cause of so many crisis…

optimistic, this requires the arc of history to bend towards non-fascism.

Optimistic, this requires a civilization to have a history.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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I went to restaurant last night and asked where the chicken was sourced from and their response was "it's not the usual place we get chicken, but it's US Farm Raised Hatched", but I misinterpreted the her answer as a distributor name but then I realized even if I had a name, I probably couldn't figure out past that whether or not these chickens were pasture raised. If food labels are law, why doesn't this apply to wh…

Are food labels required to identify where they're sourced from? I don't think so?

I don't know what is legally required, but many in the industry want that. The better we can identify where something comes from the better we can contain issues if we find them later.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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"Should" or "are required to?"

Regulations are minimal compared to what most consumers would want and expect. https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/cool

Is that true though? Trump was very clear about what he would do, and was voted in.

And here we are.

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