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Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
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Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#42I am absolutely biased, but there is a lot of attempt to shift or at least share the blame here and not a lot of accountability. Flock themselves mis-translated the plate, plain and simple, and should not be being used in production for alerting authorities on very serious matters. We are already very aware that the police overreact and make plenty of mistakes. The obvious here being that even if this was the exact p…
In Pampano beach FL my 76 yo mother got pulled over for driving a stolen vehicle. Luckily the police had some common sense to decipher what happened. Plate swap, same make model and color.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#43I know we're all sharpening pitchforks for Flock - but the national license plate database has been leading to mistakes like this for decades . Some states also compound the problem by issuing a license plate number multiple times . So long before Flock getting someone else's speed camera tickets in the mail was already a problem.
A mistake like this wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have flock cameras everywher.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#44There's a map of ALPRs based on OpenStreetMap so you can see ones near you: https://maps.deflock.org/ There's a lot more than just Flock, Flock is just one of thousands of terrible companies creating mass spying on innocent people. And there's also other ALPR companies like Axon and Motorola. Flock may be worse than those because of the AI features and large databases, but other companies making surveillance tech are…
There is a huge difference between the likes of Flock + Axon/Motorola currently. Flock is bad not because its surveillance its bad due to the scale, size and centralization.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#45seems like: - cop messed up, added an incomplete license plate number (34DTM) into the NCIC database. - Flock cameras found his fancy car, a $155k Range Rover, which had a license plate like 34DTM10, and flagged it. - cops didn't bother checking the police report before they went in and surrounded him. thoughts: - as much as I dislike Flock, it seems like it wasn't at fault here. this was a scene straight of Brazil,…
Running a partial plate is common. Especially in a hit and run where a witness might only get a few digits.
Cops regularly made the exact same kind of mistake even when using their own eyeballs.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is in fact what is being said. Executives really don’t have free will. They are slaves to capital all the same. Every move is in light of furthering the interests of capital and not actual people or humanity. Hence no meaningful efforts on things like global emissions or wealth inequality. Capital’s incentives are in opposition to that.
> Executives really don’t have free will. This is pure bullshit, an accountability dodge. Executives don't have to accept the job. Executives don't have to stay in the job when they find out they have to compromise their ethics. These are not people who are forced to steal bread to eat, they're highly compensated elites who have been given everything by society and they choose to do evil in exchange for the high comp…
If they don’t, capital will put in an executive that will. You will notice profit has strong alignment. No one gives a shit about you or me or this green earth. All those execs give a shit about the next quarter.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#47I can't deal with the ads on this page on mobile
use firefox and ublock origin. Use dns with ad blocking. You shouldn't see ads on mobile.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#48Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#49I am absolutely biased, but there is a lot of attempt to shift or at least share the blame here and not a lot of accountability. Flock themselves mis-translated the plate, plain and simple, and should not be being used in production for alerting authorities on very serious matters. We are already very aware that the police overreact and make plenty of mistakes. The obvious here being that even if this was the exact p…
> Flock themselves mis-translated the plate, plain and simple, and should not be being used in production for alerting authorities on very serious matters.
I am anti-Flock to the point that my friends and family roll their eyes when the topic comes up, but saying that because the image recognition software did not achieve 100% accuracy it can't be used under any circumstances is just silly.
I agree Flock shouldn't be used (I'd love to see the company bankrupt, the investors lose their money, and the founders imprisoned), but the accuracy of their software has nothing to do with why.
Re: Flock's CEO Faced Me After Its Cameras Led to My Wrongful Stop
#50"Inevitably what happens is, let’s take the rental car example: A car is reported stolen by the rental car agency." I've heard stories of rental car companies being very aggressive in reporting a car stolen. It sounds like Flock is having to do a lot of work to handle reports made by rental car companies specifically. This leaves me wondering how aggressive rental companies are in reporting back to the department the…
Hertz had a "glitch" in their system which would wrongly flag cars as stolen and automatically report that to police.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusa...