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'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

siva7 wrote: post #62
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a chance there wasn’t anything incriminating. The top guys kept conversations live or intimated they wanted something done; the lowers took the planning and execution upon themselves.

Yup, i've worked long enough with senior mgmt to know that anything of interest for prosecution won't be written down, especially not on company devices. Those making the mistakes of writing things down are those actually prosecuted, the ranks and files.

If anyone in leadership asks me to do anything that I find personally concerning, I'll write an email asking them to confirm that's what they want me to do.

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Post by iamflimflam1 »

alexpotato wrote: post #46
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a chance there wasn’t anything incriminating. The top guys kept conversations live or intimated they wanted something done; the lowers took the planning and execution upon themselves.

Wasn't the strategy of Mafia bosses to say something vague like "I sure wish that guy would go away". It was implicit that they wanted someone killed but if brought up in court they could say "I was just expressing an opinion, not giving an order"

https://youtu.be/c8TnSFyzLn4

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Post by iamflimflam1 »

Groxx wrote: post #60
robomc wrote: post #56

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i don't even understand the benefit of cheating on a college course, unless you think you're going to fail

Yea, same. I had many opportunities in college (who doesn't?), never did. It's not hard, you just need to actually try to learn. If I was in a course where it was so poorly taught that cheating was the only feasible way to pass, I'd go talk to the dean. Things like that don't get fixed unless people complain, because how would anyone making decisions know? It sometimes works, there's no reason to leave stuff like tha…

Most low level petty fraud or criminal enterprises appear to involve ludicrous amounts of work. You’d be better off actually doing a normal job. Yet some people prefer the former.

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Post by psd1 »

Zigurd wrote: post #65
12_throw_away wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the facts that came out at his trial [1], it seems like Baugh, the guy who ran the operation, was basically feral. At one point during his cross-country trip to harass these people , he was also trying to organize a blackmail campaign (with eBay personnel and resources) against a prosecutor in Arkansas who was charging his father with something? [2] [1] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18602070/united-states…

Corporate security is the most sought after gig for cops. It attracts the best of the best. Certainly the most ambitious. If someone were to ever dump the texts and emails of a major city PD, it would open a lot of eyes.

It might do, if that city had some level of public trust in its police. I don't know what, say, Los Angeles coppers could commit to record that might lower opinions. Beating confessions out of golden eagles? Cannibalism? The mark of the beast? Everyone already assumes they do this.

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Post by account42 »

Arainach wrote: post #32
aucisson_masque wrote: post #23

Side note but did anyone here tried to sell stuff on eBay ? Their pricing are insane, they take a cut on your product price, but also on the delivery method and even on the taxes ! It amounts to about 13% of total price, including delivery and taxes. It looks absolutely insane to me, but some people seem to defend it. To put some perspective, here in France we have an extremely profitable competitor called Leboncoin,…

> It looks absolutely insane to me, but some people seem to defend it. Before that policy, you had a bunch of items listed for $1 + $60 "shipping" to dodge fees. I'll take the current structure over that.

You still get suspicious shipping prices just not as extreme perhaps. For a platform like eBay where I am less likely to buy multiple different items from one seller and that is integrated internationally, the list price should just include shipping (and import fees!) anyway to make comparisons easier.

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Post by psd1 »

rootsudo wrote: post #103
3dedb728-3f77 wrote: post #80

Kinda insane that they felt pressured by a blog like ecommercebytes.

Proof that if you write the truth, it doesn’t matter how legitimate the platform is, the message will always cut through.

More like: no message is too obscure to Streisand

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Post by account42 »

kube-system wrote: post #77
asdff wrote: post #33

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Stuff is still getting listed like that on ebay.

I use ebay heavily and I don't see it anymore, except for things that look like typos or people who clearly just don't know how to use ebay. There's no advantage to doing so because sorting/filtering includes shipping.

Sorting isn't strict (or perhaps affected by paid placements?) so buyers still have to look at the prices to see which item is actually the cheapest.

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Post by davidwritesbugs »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26
jimnotgym wrote: post #10

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What I really don't understand is why the security people who sent to jail didn't drop their boss in it in return for diminishing their role

There is a chance there wasn’t anything incriminating. The top guys kept conversations live or intimated they wanted something done; the lowers took the planning and execution upon themselves.

“Will no-one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

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Post by formerlurker »

dqv wrote: post #50
polytely wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we know what AI startup? I think its important for people to know when they do business with that startup.

https://symbolic.ai/team

“The first AI platform created for professional journalists, communicators, and publishers.”

It’s quite ironic that he went on to cater to communicators after harassing bloggers.

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Post by Grimeton »

ninjagoo wrote: post #63
alexpotato wrote: post #44

Scott Adams [0], who recently passed away, had a great line on human behavior (paraphrased): Whenever people are unsupervised and there is a chance for fraud or bad behavior and, due to the lack of supervision, they believe they won't be caught, you should ALWAYS assume that people will behave badly. For another example, the Google case where it was exposed how many nefarious activities they were up to around auction…

> Whenever people are unsupervised and there is a chance for fraud or bad behavior and, due to the lack of supervision, they believe they won't be caught, you should ALWAYS assume that people will behave badly. Do you have any evidence to support your claim? On the contrary, a 2019 analysis [1] combined 400+ experimental treatments, 44,000+ participants, and 47 countries. Participants surrendered roughly three-quarte…

This is so typical. It is known for millennia that people tend to steal and enrich themselves whenever an opportunity arises. Common sense so to say.

And you show up with a study.

Sorry but I had to point this out.

It's not all people, but always people.

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