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'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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There is a chance there wasn’t anything incriminating. The top guys kept conversations live or intimated they wanted something done; the lowers took the planning and execution upon themselves.

Wasn't the strategy of Mafia bosses to say something vague like "I sure wish that guy would go away". It was implicit that they wanted someone killed but if brought up in court they could say "I was just expressing an opinion, not giving an order"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_tur...

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

#52

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Mobsters have it down to an art. "You take care of it." means "Murder him and dump the body into a building foundation." "I don't see any problems." can mean "The ambush will happen at the scheduled time. Vinnie will clean up the bodies." etc. You'll also see a lot of politicians using "dog whistle" statements, that are interpreted by listeners to mean something entirely different from the stated words.

A good fictional example of this I often think of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5j9RHCBpM

Dealing with turbulence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_tur...

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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Scott Adams [0], who recently passed away, had a great line on human behavior (paraphrased): Whenever people are unsupervised and there is a chance for fraud or bad behavior and, due to the lack of supervision, they believe they won't be caught, you should ALWAYS assume that people will behave badly. For another example, the Google case where it was exposed how many nefarious activities they were up to around auction…

In one of my college courses, 100% of my fellow students cheated, including me. This is when I learned that virtually every person is deep down a liar and a cheat if they think they won't face consequences and it's in their benefit, and any public facade of virtue that people put up, common in this industry, is a manipulation strategy that is just more cheating, although of a different kind.

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

#56

Scott Adams [0], who recently passed away, had a great line on human behavior (paraphrased): Whenever people are unsupervised and there is a chance for fraud or bad behavior and, due to the lack of supervision, they believe they won't be caught, you should ALWAYS assume that people will behave badly. For another example, the Google case where it was exposed how many nefarious activities they were up to around auction…

In one of my college courses, 100% of my fellow students cheated, including me. This is when I learned that virtually every person is deep down a liar and a cheat if they think they won't face consequences and it's in their benefit, and any public facade of virtue that people put up, common in this industry, is a manipulation strategy that is just more cheating, although of a different kind.

i don't even understand the benefit of cheating on a college course, unless you think you're going to fail

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

#57
I just can't fathom how employees of a company would do all this because someone with a newsletter criticized the company often.

I understand employees committing fraud for their own gain. I don't understand Directors and analysts doing this to someone, especially when senior execs weren't charged. Seems like there were a lot of cover ups going on.

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In one of my college courses, 100% of my fellow students cheated, including me. This is when I learned that virtually every person is deep down a liar and a cheat if they think they won't face consequences and it's in their benefit, and any public facade of virtue that people put up, common in this industry, is a manipulation strategy that is just more cheating, although of a different kind.

i don't even understand the benefit of cheating on a college course, unless you think you're going to fail

More job opportunities due to better grades. It's not mutually exclusive with learning the material, it's just an additional bump.

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

#59
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Why should anyone who's not a Klingon care about "honor"?

A part of living in society is following societal norms.

Writing both your original comment and this comment, together in the same context, frankly appears as a form of anti-social insanity.

Re: 'Crush this lady': how eBay harassment campaign led to $56M payout

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In one of my college courses, 100% of my fellow students cheated, including me. This is when I learned that virtually every person is deep down a liar and a cheat if they think they won't face consequences and it's in their benefit, and any public facade of virtue that people put up, common in this industry, is a manipulation strategy that is just more cheating, although of a different kind.

i don't even understand the benefit of cheating on a college course, unless you think you're going to fail

Yea, same. I had many opportunities in college (who doesn't?), never did. It's not hard, you just need to actually try to learn.

If I was in a course where it was so poorly taught that cheating was the only feasible way to pass, I'd go talk to the dean. Things like that don't get fixed unless people complain, because how would anyone making decisions know?

It sometimes works, there's no reason to leave stuff like that for the next group of people to suffer through too. E.g. I'm extremely proud of my wife for this kind of thing, as she managed to get nearly a whole class to complain about an awful pseudo-science-pushing teacher, and got them kicked out in fairly short order.

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