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Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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What they always do. Send in armed men with guns? Export Controls. Import Controls. National Security Laws.

Good luck doing that in China?

>Good luck doing that in China.

Crazy how all the 5 eyes nations banned Huawei within like 18 months of each other.

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Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

I have been using Qwen3.6-35B-A3B as my daily driver as well and its been phenomenal when it comes to coding

How do you use a 72GB model as your daily driver locally?

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Lmao I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job. Surely Alibaba is leading by example here by reducing work hours per week while keeping pay the same right? Right?

The percentage of the population that needs to work will continue to go down because of aging and automation although you might not see it as a reduction of hours for a given individual employed person. Already 38% of Americans aged 16 or older do not work and are not looking for work and yet are not dying from hunger or exposure. This would have seemed like a utopian dream to someone from the 1800s.

Source?

Being 16, 17 and 18 and not working is expected, given they are still at school. A good percentage of people aged 18 to 24 are studying full time.

This stat seems a bit misleading and doesn't support the "you can live and not work argument". How many of those people are retired? How many of those are under 18? How many of those simply cannot work? How many of those live at home or are on food stamp?

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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I have been using Qwen3.6-35B-A3B as my daily driver as well and its been phenomenal when it comes to coding

How do you use a 72GB model as your daily driver locally?

At 4 bit it easily fits in 32GB. That's what most people use.

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Haha I'm on an Mac Studio with an M1 Ultra, 64gb ram. I bought it when it first came out, it just happens to be good for local LLMs. I have to use a smaller quant of Laguna S though (I think 4-bit? Not at my machine to check), as 8-bit and full size definitely don't fit in the 64gb I have.

Yeah, a good rule of thumb is that the weights take up ~100% of the size of the model, so 100B bytes (8-bit quant) would be, well, 100GB and a 4-bit quant would be half that.

Oh, that is a useful rule to know! Thanks!

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What on earth hardwares do you guys have to be able to run 100gb models locally?! That's crazy! I'm here struggling to even get 27b models to run in somewhat usable way

Haha I'm on an Mac Studio with an M1 Ultra, 64gb ram. I bought it when it first came out, it just happens to be good for local LLMs. I have to use a smaller quant of Laguna S though (I think 4-bit? Not at my machine to check), as 8-bit and full size definitely don't fit in the 64gb I have.

brb, going to see if 2nd hand mac studios are available!

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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It was a matter of time for China to catch up with the US. In terms of infrastructure, manufacturing, and engineering workforce, China has the upperhand and I foresee them becoming the SOTA leaders. Maybe if the US wasn't so busy gatekeeping and keeping things proprietary, they would've had more trust from the open source community.

First and foremost, China isn't energy-limited like the US is. A modern grid, lost of cheap power coming online every day. The worlds most advance ultra-high voltage transport links are tying the deserts in the west to the cities in the south.

It probably sucks for you if the proposed powerline goes through your house, but the need of the many come first.

Having cheap and plentiful power is a huge market advantage. It was one of the factors driving Norway out of poverty 100 years ago.

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Page won’t load for me it’s just grey bars fading back and forth forever.

You can always wait until the page loads before posting your thoughts on the Internet

Or let them just ask and if someone asking a question on the internet bothers you, just move along and ignore it.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

Qwen-3.6-35B-A3B was our "gateway drug" into switching our organisation to agent/harness-first coding.

Particularly, I had one team member who was extremely sceptical of AIs/LLMs/harnesses and refused to use them. One day he said "Well, I have an RTX 5090 doing nothing... should I try to get something up on it?" and a few minutes later he had 3.6-35B loaded up, running OpenCode.

It continues to be a workhorse to this day, running on both my local Mac for various types of jobs, an AMD R9700 at the office, and said teammember still uses it on his 5090, although in practical terms we do a lot more with DS-V4-Flash-0731 these days.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

What are the specs of your laptop and what tokens per second do you get?
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