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Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by MangoCoffee »

adi2907 wrote: post #20

Once OpenAI and Anthropic are public, every such announcement will become a reliable sell signal

US AI labs really rub me the wrong way, especially with the doom and scare tactics they use. Both Altman and Dario keep talking about how AI will replace workers and how we should regulate LLMs for national security, Dario’s main point.

LLMs are useful. We can all see that in agentic coding. But replacing everyone’s job? Hardly. And what’s with the scare tactic of trying to get the US government to ban foreign models?

LLMs are useful, and dare I say they’re on par with the internet. Making them cheaper and affordable is good for everyone. The fear mongering from Anthropic and OpenAI looks like an attempt to corner the US market into using only US models so they can keep the profits, especially since China has proven that LLMs are a commodity. US AI labs should work on making LLMs cheaper or better harness. Altman and Dario are not trustworthy.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by cute_boi »

mlmonkey wrote: post #7
jofzar wrote: post #4

Lmao I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job. Surely Alibaba is leading by example here by reducing work hours per week while keeping pay the same right? Right?

That's the thing. Wny are companies like OpenAI/Anthropic/Alibaba/Kimi/Deepseek still hiring SWEs if their models have become so good?

The world never runs out of problem. There is so much work to do.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by neumann »

nozzlegear wrote: post #27
toshinoriyagi wrote: post #8

They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

compared to claude - how 'fast' is it in terms of throughput on your laptop?

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by Larrikin »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #6
a2dam wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second sentence of the page: "This also marks the first time we will open-source the weights of a Qwen-Max-class model — the open weights will be released next week."

Page won’t load for me it’s just grey bars fading back and forth forever.

You can always wait until the page loads before posting your thoughts on the Internet

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by SyneRyder »

jofzar wrote: post #4

Lmao I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job. Surely Alibaba is leading by example here by reducing work hours per week while keeping pay the same right? Right?

> I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job...

Are you not already experiencing this? I think this is fairly common for people using AI now, though the time may not always go into hobbies or sports. It's common for me to setup Claude with an hour+ task while I catch up on housework, or while I'm getting ready in the morning.

In the last couple of weeks I've unfortunately had multiple family illnesses - it has been helpful to have Claude keep up with much of my product development programming work while I visit my mother in hospital and check on my father's recovery. I'm able to give more time to family without worrying that business progress isn't keeping up. The overnight Claude sessions while I'm asleep have been particularly helpful.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by pettijohn »

nozzlegear wrote: post #27
toshinoriyagi wrote: post #8

They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

35B MoE is certainly a good and fast local model. I find 27B dense to be quite a bit smarter, so I daily drive that. I wish there was a ~100B MoE with maybe 10B active. It would be super smart and fast!

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by pettijohn »

simonw wrote: post #29
simonw wrote: post #5

> Today, we are officially releasing Qwen 3.8-Max, the most capable model in the Qwen family to date. This also marks the first time we will open-source the weights of a Qwen-Max-class model — the open weights will be released next week. I don't understand. That's dated today, but: https://twitter.com/alibaba_qwen/status/2078759124914098291 > Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon! [...] You don't have to wa…

... other comments were right, this is the full qwen3.8-max model, two weeks ago was the qwen3.8-max-preview release. Here's a pelican I just got out of the new model. It took 11 minutes and forgot the wheels! https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht... (scroll to bottom) The reasoning trace is pretty great: > More additions: basket with fish in it? Cute detail — a fish poking out of a basket on t…

Wow, bike geometry is really good! Except for the missing wheels lol

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by ufish235 »

nozzlegear wrote: post #27
toshinoriyagi wrote: post #8

They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

What laptop?
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