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Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

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Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

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I hope other states adopt this. One of the biggest mistakes I have made is giving my real phone number to Dun & Bradstreet. Now the spam calls and messages (from people they sold my info to) won't stop. I don't want to change my phone number.

My number used to belong to an elderly woman, so I keep getting spam texts intended for her. I block the numbers, but they somehow keep sending me spam messages from different ones. I don't think there is any solution other than changing my phone number at this point. The issue is fucking sites keep using phone number as 2fa.

Keep the old number and get a new one. You'll have to gradually switch all 2fa if you want to lose the old number, otherwise keep it forever on a separate device.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#43
post #8

I hope other states adopt this. One of the biggest mistakes I have made is giving my real phone number to Dun & Bradstreet. Now the spam calls and messages (from people they sold my info to) won't stop. I don't want to change my phone number.

I don’t know if this is worth the cost to you but I’ve found that the cheapest $5 Tello plan as a second line is great for business use like this.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#45
post #38
post #35

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Define “doing business”. If no money is exchanged, how are you “doing business” with them?

Doing business is doing business, money isn't necessary to "do business". If you hold any interest and that person has any relationship with you in a way that can be inferred that a contract is implied, then that's business. That's why travel to get an "agreement" is considered a business expense, even if the agreement never materialize.

> doing business is doing business

That’s not much of a definition.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#47
post #35

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Look up "long arm statutes". State courts can have jurisdiction over out-of-state entities, subject to limitations established by federal precedent. Doing business with customers who reside in a state generally puts you under that state's jurisdiction, at least for purposes related to that business.

Define “doing business”. If no money is exchanged, how are you “doing business” with them?

I’m not sure the definition matters here. Either you are doing business and this regulation makes certain things now illegal; or you are not doing business and it’s unsolicited and spam.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

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100% In 2012 when I started commenting here I had no idea it would lead to death threats and I’d have a two year old daughter.

What kind of topics/comments did you make that got you death threats? Really want to make sure I stay away from such topics.

I've gotten several death threats for saying, at one point, that Destiny 2 year 1 was enjoyable because it pivoted the game away from loot-box gambling and FOMO addiction-driven player hours.

No topic is truly safe from other sociopaths getting their jollies from writing anonymous hatemail. Yeah, sociopathy makes it difficult to feel something, I empathize — but that's no excuse for them abusing their people-toys. Imagine Sid as an adult on the Internet if he'd never been scared straight: it doesn't matter what topics you play with to a Sid, they're adaptable and will find ways to issue death threats for personal pleasure, on whatever topics they find in the sandbox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKuMCJqdW4

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#49
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Conversely, they did help me out.

really just whatever dang feels like that day

We take users' privacy seriously and have had a consistent policy for years. If anyone is worried about personally identifying information, we're always happy to redact the PII and reassign comments/posts to an anonymous account. The only thing we don't do is wholesale wipe someone's entire history from HN, because it guts the threads and ruins them for everyone else who participated and who might find them interesting to read in the future.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#50
post #39

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Out of curiosity, did you do this as part of Android's awful app submission process

I think Apple requires it too or did when I made an app for my mom a few years ago

Not for most people. You definitely did not need it for making an app for your mom. I've released games under my own name and never did that.

A random person releasing an app or game on the App Store - you won't need it.

But on Android you still might, even for something small, since they changed the rules for new developers. As of November 2023, any new developer account releasing an app basically has to have an Organization account to publish.

Otherwise, the only way to do it as a solo dev is to go through some arduous testing phase with Google, where you have to find 12 or more people to help test at certain times for 14 consecutive days. If even 1 tester doesn't show up or deletes the app, it resets. Comical, but it's how they lowkey force you to create an Organization.

And people should form companies (and operate as Organizations on platforms). It will protect you in the long run, and you can pay lower taxes on revenues. The main problem I have with it - and this also goes for certain payment processors - sometimes I just want to try an idea. Or like your example, build an app for a friend or relative without a ton of hoops to jump through. Involving a 3rd party credit bureau that operates as a private company - that apparently sells people's data to shit ball marketers, doing whatever else they want with basically no oversight - seems in almost all cases overkill and whack as a process as big as Apple or Google app submission that is borderline a public service if you're willing to not pretend we don't have 2 main choices in this market.

The app store platform should just forward on to the downloading user that it's a corporation in Delaware, or whatever. They kinda do - with the "copyright" field, but that field and value has no legal bearing on anything and can be changed without a review - where even being an individual or "sole" proprietor is a legal designation. You could still form a company under your own name later. Adding a business license should be some optional thing IMO that links through to a local registry if possible and if not, then the end user can deduce that it is not "verified" to be that entity.

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