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Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

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Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#31
> Companies that fail to comply can face fines of $200 per day for each affected Californian.

Does this cover things like credit reports/scores? If someone submits a request to this DROP thing, is it possible data gets deleted that they don't intend?

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#32

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The company would have to not have any interstate presence at all. If you are a business based in the united states that has customers in California, you are easily reachable under California law.

Curious, how so?

Look up "long arm statutes". State courts can have jurisdiction over out-of-state entities, subject to limitations established by federal precedent. Doing business with customers who reside in a state generally puts you under that state's jurisdiction, at least for purposes related to that business.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#33

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My first BBS handle was my full real name, and I barely managed to purge myself from DejaNews before Google bought it, so I empathize. The modern internet has been a severe learning experience and, given how many replicas of HN exist, the cat is well out of the bag. Teach others to be more careful, as I do.

100% In 2012 when I started commenting here I had no idea it would lead to death threats and I’d have a two year old daughter.

What kind of topics/comments did you make that got you death threats? Really want to make sure I stay away from such topics.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#34
post #30

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You believe volunteered information must stay on internet forever?

If you knew those were the conditions when you joined? Yes.

Ok. Luckily people who make the rules don’t have such ideas.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious, how so?

Look up "long arm statutes". State courts can have jurisdiction over out-of-state entities, subject to limitations established by federal precedent. Doing business with customers who reside in a state generally puts you under that state's jurisdiction, at least for purposes related to that business.

Define “doing business”. If no money is exchanged, how are you “doing business” with them?

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#37
post #8

I hope other states adopt this. One of the biggest mistakes I have made is giving my real phone number to Dun & Bradstreet. Now the spam calls and messages (from people they sold my info to) won't stop. I don't want to change my phone number.

I noticed this too. It's a number I've had for years and have barely given out to anyone. Registered for a DUNS number last month and have been getting all sorts of spam calls from all different area codes. I assumed it was due to the DUNS form.

I noticed D&B have recently had FTC violations/settlements but not sure they touch this specific situation, but I'm honestly curious if there's anything we can do about this.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/09/...

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#38
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up "long arm statutes". State courts can have jurisdiction over out-of-state entities, subject to limitations established by federal precedent. Doing business with customers who reside in a state generally puts you under that state's jurisdiction, at least for purposes related to that business.

Define “doing business”. If no money is exchanged, how are you “doing business” with them?

Doing business is doing business, money isn't necessary to "do business". If you hold any interest and that person has any relationship with you in a way that can be inferred that a contract is implied, then that's business. That's why travel to get an "agreement" is considered a business expense, even if the agreement never materialize.

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#39
post #8

I hope other states adopt this. One of the biggest mistakes I have made is giving my real phone number to Dun & Bradstreet. Now the spam calls and messages (from people they sold my info to) won't stop. I don't want to change my phone number.

Out of curiosity, did you do this as part of Android's awful app submission process

I think Apple requires it too or did when I made an app for my mom a few years ago

Re: Californians' data deletion requests, DROP, become enforceable Aug. 1

#40
post #8

I hope other states adopt this. One of the biggest mistakes I have made is giving my real phone number to Dun & Bradstreet. Now the spam calls and messages (from people they sold my info to) won't stop. I don't want to change my phone number.

Out of curiosity, did you do this as part of Android's awful app submission process

I recently did and have been getting crazy spam calls that I never had before. I've already replied to GP about this but didn't mention I registered the DUNS number due to it being a requirement to release and Android app.
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