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Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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does anyone have a data-backed reason as to why US market share has capped out around 10%? is it economics + lack of access to chinese EVs? range anxiety?

I’d guess a greater percent of car owners in the US are working class. A lot of cities car modal share is like 85% or higher which shows how much car ownership is democratized in the US compared to asia or eu, where ownership might be higher relative income and more able to afford new ev premium prices vs cheap used gas cars.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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It is remarkable that a US company had an enormous lead in BEVs for a decade. Then they just kinda stopped innovating, and slid backwards.

Having owned a Model 3 I would argue that it’s basically “done” at this point, pending software updates for better FSD. It already charges in 20-30 min at Tesla chargers and has a practical range of around 600 kms, so super fast charging is a bit of a straw man. Their big downfall is they lack an advertising department willing to spend $1B on pro-electric propaganda to debunk all the Trump/big oil propaganda. IMO EVs…

I am very skeptical that your Model 3 has a "practical range" of 372 miles. EPA range for the long range model is 342 miles, and I would expect usable range to be considerably less (since you probably want to start charging at around 10% remaining, and you probably want to stop charging at 80-90%). 0% - 100% is kind of not "practical" as it would require you to fully deplete the battery, and then wait for the slow charging at the margins (90 to 100% tends to be pretty slow).

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having owned a Model 3 I would argue that it’s basically “done” at this point, pending software updates for better FSD. It already charges in 20-30 min at Tesla chargers and has a practical range of around 600 kms, so super fast charging is a bit of a straw man. Their big downfall is they lack an advertising department willing to spend $1B on pro-electric propaganda to debunk all the Trump/big oil propaganda. IMO EVs…

I can’t own one because I can’t install a fast charger at my place.

I don't have a gas station at my house, and yet I still own a gas-powered vehicle.

I also don't have a fast electric charger at my house, and yet I still also own an EV.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is remarkable that a US company had an enormous lead in BEVs for a decade. Then they just kinda stopped innovating, and slid backwards.

Having owned a Model 3 I would argue that it’s basically “done” at this point, pending software updates for better FSD. It already charges in 20-30 min at Tesla chargers and has a practical range of around 600 kms, so super fast charging is a bit of a straw man. Their big downfall is they lack an advertising department willing to spend $1B on pro-electric propaganda to debunk all the Trump/big oil propaganda. IMO EVs…

Not everyone wants the same thing from a car. Some care most about the price, some about the efficiency, some about the size, some about the comfort, some about the charging speed despite what you say.

If Telsa were still innovating, they'd have rounded out their offerings to fill in the gaps that are now getting filled with other brands in the world outside the USA.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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> Thanks to a number of factors (new cheaper models, high gas prices, mass arrival of Chinese models, etc.), EVs are currently in high demand in Europe. EVs are in high demand in the EU because laws have been passed in every country and ICE are getting banned in many cities. Chinese EVs did flood the EU not because people did want to buy chinese EVs: people in the EU were totally fine buying ICE cars (german, french,…

They may import the cars, but now they don't need to import the fuel.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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I can’t own one because I can’t install a fast charger at my place.

Most people don’t need a fast charger to own an EV. Most people would actually be just fine on a household outlet.

Sounds terrible if that is your only car.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Nearly 50% of vehicles sold in Australia in the last quarter were EVs or plug-in hybrids: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-02/electric-vehicle-ev-s...

A record for EV sales in Norway was set in 2025: 95.9 percent of all new passenger cars sold were fully electric, up from 88.9 percent in 2024.

Top 10 new passenger cars 2025

1. Tesla Model Y: 27 621

2. Volkswagen ID.4: 8 802

3. Toyota bZ4X: 7 274

4. Volkswagen ID.7: 6 976

5. Tesla Model 3: 6 608

6. Volkswagen ID.3: 5 572

7. Volvo EX40: 5 270

8. Volvo EX30(xc): 5 206

9. Skoda Enyaq: 4 836

10. Nissan Ariya: 4 565

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t own one because I can’t install a fast charger at my place.

Most people don’t need a fast charger to own an EV. Most people would actually be just fine on a household outlet.

Have been charging my model 3 from an outlet since 2020, we only need fast charging occasionally when taking a long trip

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is remarkable that a US company had an enormous lead in BEVs for a decade. Then they just kinda stopped innovating, and slid backwards.

Having owned a Model 3 I would argue that it’s basically “done” at this point, pending software updates for better FSD. It already charges in 20-30 min at Tesla chargers and has a practical range of around 600 kms, so super fast charging is a bit of a straw man. Their big downfall is they lack an advertising department willing to spend $1B on pro-electric propaganda to debunk all the Trump/big oil propaganda. IMO EVs…

You think it’s done only because you are not ambitious enough. And neither is Tesla. A Hyundai charges faster than a Tesla. Chinese cars from several brands are getting five-minute charging times. If you think that’s a straw man I don’t know what to say; a buyer wants charging to be as fast as pumping gas, and are you going to blame buyer stupidity for not delivering on that?

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Charging experience? Teslas can't charge as fast as a modern Kia, Lucid, Geely, or BYD. They can't two-gun charge like a BYD. They don't have battery-swaps like NIO. They've got a single charge port in a back corner... very unclear what's best about them. And as for software, on the infotainment side, AA/CP are great (but not available on Tesla), and people often like having _some_ physical controls, which goes again…

Android Auto and Carplay are better than dealing with just crappy infotainment systems but they still don't make the overall software experience good. You end up with disjointed interface with functionality split between the automakers UI. FSD is unmatched. Auto lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control don't provide the reactivity that FSD does even for straight highway driving. Most objective reviews comparing a Mod…

Tesla FSD and infotainment is the best in the US only. Tesla is no match for Xiaomi or Li Auto.
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