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Re: Seedance 2.5

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Post by chrysoprace »

damsta wrote: post #24

I don't think audio, image or video generation should exist. I haven't seen enough positive applications to justify the amount of harm these tools are being used to cause.

While I generally think it's balanced against a lot of negative applications (misinformation, deepfakes, etc.), there are some good applications. I think regulation just hasn't sufficiently caught up with the harm they can cause.

To give a good use case (audio generation specifically), the 2002 game Morrowind has had a resurgence lately and it's a really great game, but it lacks fully voiced lines for dialogue. A community project called Voices of Vvardenfell uses ElevenAI to generate voice lines from the voiced lines that do exist in the game. They don't take away jobs from artists because it was a monumental (unpaid) undertaking from community volunteers to do this before (there was such a big project but it was abandoned last I saw).

So as with any emerging technologies, I think it just needs to be properly regulated.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#102

Post by Barbing »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #85
Nition wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No longer being able to tell whether any image or video is real due to the extreme ease of creating realistic fakes, is itself a harm.

It might actually be helpful to push through and out to the other side. Think about how many completely fake videos are going to be flying around for the next election. Nobody is going to believe anything the see online. What is the the next stage, where the only things you believe are things you see with your own eyes.

>things you see with your own eyes

Oh I wouldn't trust myself!

  In his study, "Nearly 2,000 witnesses can be wrong", Buckhout performed an experiment with 2,145 at-home viewers of a popular news broadcast. The television network played a 13-second clip of a mock robbery, produced by Buckhout. ... The people at home could call a number on their screen to report which suspect they believed was the perpetrator. The perpetrator was suspect number 2. ... Approximately equal contingents of participants chose suspects 1, 2, or 5, while the largest group of participants, about 25 percent, said they believed the perpetrator was not in the lineup. Even police precincts called in and reported the wrong man as the one they believed committed the crime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyewitness_testimony#Reliabili...

Also-mentioned concepts: misinformation effect, source misattribution, confirmation bias.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#103

Post by zuzululu »

yrds96 wrote: post #92
zuzululu wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to fret, this is the worst it's going to be. Remember, Will Smith + Spaghetti videos?

The bicycle was improved a lot when it was created but did changed a little since then too

yeah we got automobile, motorcycles, planes, lot of stuff since then

Re: Seedance 2.5

#104

Post by cchance »

ares623 wrote: post #2

Is it just me or are these video models only actual use case is misinformation and spam? Sure they show us quirky and whimsy samples on the release page, but does anyone really believe that?

I belive thats what it WILL be, its heavily used in scammy and poltiical bullshit currently, but its only a matter of time until the cost vs benefit makes sense for hollywood and companies to start using it for actual commercials and tv shows and special effects etc for major videos.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#105

Post by pwython »

woctordho wrote: post #58
Genego wrote: post #56

Whenever I see the new releases around video generation (and image) generation models, I get goosebumps, because it just feels so fun to work with them. But then I remember that I spend upwards of $10k on inference generating well over 50k images for storyboards, training models; and probably creating almost an hour of video (I assume). Yeah, I get that things can be economic if you don't use the latest models (ran s…

MiniMax H3 is going to release weights. You can locally run it with definitely less than $10k (and possibly faster than Seedance's queue), and it's fun to train it for whatever you need.

H3 results are underwhelming compared to LTX 2.3 so far:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1vciy35/lt...

Perhaps refined ComfyUI workflows will squeeze more quality out of it, but it's definitely not in the realm of Seedance, and Lightricks is training LTX 2.5/"LTX-Next".

Re: Seedance 2.5

#107

Post by weird-eye-issue »

bag_boy wrote: post #95
BoorishBears wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely hilarious https://x.com/CuiMao/status/2049828401201246395

This specific video is the first time I have been distributed by AI video. This is extraordinary lifelike.

There's honestly a good chance you have seen an AI video in the last several months without realizing it. AI images and videos got crazy good suddenly

Re: Seedance 2.5

#108

Post by Veedrac »

deadbabe wrote: post #74
zuzululu wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to fret, this is the worst it's going to be. Remember, Will Smith + Spaghetti videos?

It could also still be the best it's ever going to be.

Anybody old enough to remember when https://imagen.research.google/video/ was SOTA?

Re: Seedance 2.5

#109

Post by weird-eye-issue »

deadbabe wrote: post #68
sumedh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont normally like AI videos but this was just amazing, by next year the tech will be perfect, cheaper, we are going to AI videos everywhere whether anyone likes it or not.

people like it. Maybe not older generations, but we're about to get a fresh new generation of people that will not have a lifetime of experience looking at human generated content, and so have no real bias against AI content. And then every generation after that will be born into increasingly a AI-video rich world.

The older generation loves them the most. Sometimes my mom sends me several AI generated reels in one day and she doesn't care if it's AI or not she just finds them funny.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#110

Post by r0fl »

Where can you use seance to make movies? Do you have to sign up to a. Third party? Do they have an official app I don’t know about or is there an api.

I just can’t figure it out!!

There are no stupid questions only stupid people.. when it comes to figuring this out I’m one of those people

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