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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Of course it will appear BS to you. That is why it works.

Why couldn’t this trick be pulled off two decades ago? After all autonomous vehicles has been well funded research since the 1980s the DARPA grand challenge being one of the previously most important benchmarks. I think you might just need a history lesson friend

Internet and the ad/marketing/propoganda/pr powers that comes with it..

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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After all this time it's still a pain point just to pay them for a Gemini API key.

So crazy, at one point they had 3 different systems for interacting with Gemini, all with different auth. For a company that prides themselves on the smartest engineers, they really struggle with the basics

A lot of this is having to incorporate with existing billing systems for their customers. OpenAI and Anthropic have it easier by having no previous billing setup to be compatible with.

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I could not disagree more with the claim about no improvement in robotic actuators. The torque density and price of actuators has fallen dramatically since Ben Katz's MIT work on mini cheetah. The actuators on the Unitree G1 based on that work are powerful for their size and near quasi-direct-drive. The motors on the BD E-Atlas are completely passively cooled and appear to have really good torque density. Actuators h…

Exactly, the last year or two has been insanely innovative for actuators, with some new material combinations, approaches and multiple startups that are starting to scale up their innovations in this space. Give them a few years to sort out the vaporwares and the robotics revolution will begin.

What innovations specifically?

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> this is very good if capital is effectively democratized Are there any indications to think it's possible in our world?

I mean, there's a time in history when the population successfully brought out the guillotines and made real change against centralized power.

A time when covert organization and coordination of opposition were possible, as opposed to the panopticon of today, monitored 24/7 in real time.

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> We may be atypical, but my partner and I don't want to hire out a cleaning service and deal with the whole human component I kind of understand where the feeling comes from, but this also saddens me. What happened to our generation? We're scared of people.

Eh, I'm a pretty social and outgoing guy. I think its fair to have some reservations about people in one's own home. I'll admit I'm slightly neurotic in my own household in that I like things to be done a certain way. I'd also feel like I needed to maintain certain levels of tidiness to enable a traditional cleaning service to perform well.

I don't think it's about being social/outgoing or not. There's clearly an anxiety we have, we avoid confrontation, or awkward dynamics. For example, you like things done a certain way, that's irrelevant, its that you feel anxious working with a human and have them understand how you want it done sounds stressful, but would be comfortable doing so with a robot.

I share those feelings too, it's self-reflective.

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Google DeepMind disbands its Nobel-prize winning AlphaFold team https://www.engadget.com/2225849/google-shuts-down-alphafold... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49098375

I won't comment much on this, but I'd say these articles are 2-3 years late and reduces the agency of the people, who in many cases moved to Gemini because they wanted to work on LLMs

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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This page is just marketing…more interesting is that: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/go... Success-rate of ~60% Accuracy: ~80% That’s pretty low and definitely not production ready

Seems like production ready is 2-5 years out though. Not a very long time

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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This is absolutely not true check out Sunday robotics and their robot that folds clothes. Sunday robotics says it does holding of clothes correctly 99% of the time that is real world usage today. They even have three hour video of the robot folding the clothes.

They didn't mention anything about folding clothes so I suspect this comment is just an ad

It’s a video on their YouTube channel
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