The session you cannot take with you • Hacker News Board

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by monknomo » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:27 PM UTC

utopiah wrote: post #133

falcor84 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry about the nitpicking, but s/monopoly/duopoly/

I don't think that's the economical definition of monopoly. It's not about 1 single actor owning the market but rather about unilateral change. Obviously a single actor owning 99.99% will be able to shape the market ... but also one owning a lot less, e.g. 30% if even if they don't collude with another actor owning e.g. 21%.

what you are describing sounds like an oligopoly not a monopoly. A company cannot realize monopolistic benefits without > 50% control of a market. That's not to say there aren't benefits to a large market share, but they are different and we have different terms for them.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by alasano » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:28 PM UTC

rad-b wrote: post #128

theturtletalks wrote: post #120

This is exactly why Pi will win. It lets you hot swap models when one is struggling or straight up refusing the task. And since it works with any sub outside Claude Code, you can use it to try different models on OpenCode Go sub or even OpenRouter. As far as subagent prompts and results being obfuscated, I just let Pi spawn new agents. Using skills and extensions, I’ve essentially built a software factory using Pi an…

How did you decide on Pi over Opencode? What you see as the “edge” Pi has?

Pi to me felt like when you install a fresh OS with nothing on it and then customize it to your liking.

Sure there are some features that you'll want immediately but when I took at look at the number of slash commands that ship with Claude code I find it ridiculous.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by ccann » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:30 PM UTC

So continues the plundering of Tolkien's universe for "cool company names".

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by skinfaxi » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:31 PM UTC

mike_hearn wrote: post #179

skinfaxi wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A modern account system is expected to have, in rough implementation order: email confirmations, password strength checks, password reset emails, forgot password flows (=advanced ID verification as otherwise this becomes a backdoor into accounts), user profiles (+avatar image upload/recompression/hosting), usernames independent of email addresses along with ability to change usernames later, password brute forcing…

That's what I said. If you're willing to implicitly rely on webmail provider's identity/auth systems then you can simplify - but that's not much different to just adding a Sign in with Google/Microsoft button. The identity is ultimately controlled by the email service and almost all users are on just two of those.

What web auth system doesn't rely on a user having a secure inbox? It is vastly different from signing in with an IdP, since I can use my email address regardless of who my mail provider is.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by esafak » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:38 PM UTC

skybrian wrote: post #33

I don’t see this as a big deal in practice. Conversations contain a bunch of junk anyway, so removing it from the context is usually good. In my repo, I have a notes directory. I ask the AI to write a markdown file with what it learned, what work has been done, and what remains. In the next conversation, I can ask another model to pick it up from there. Sometimes I edit the note first.

Conversations provide a window into the minds of your coworkers and their agents. You could be using them to read between the lines when debugging.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by esafak » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:49 PM UTC

sdoering wrote: post #43

> “Most People Do Not Switch Models Mid-Session” I do, quite regularly. Because different models have different strength (for example when producing text for live presentations based on the text for a reading deck). Or when it comes to other aspects of the work. I regularly switch between open wheight models and closed models. I know, I am a tiny minority here. And this behavior only ever started a few weeks ago. But…

If you use subagents this is perfectly normal.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by aktenlage » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:53 PM UTC

rad-b wrote: post #128

theturtletalks wrote: post #120

This is exactly why Pi will win. It lets you hot swap models when one is struggling or straight up refusing the task. And since it works with any sub outside Claude Code, you can use it to try different models on OpenCode Go sub or even OpenRouter. As far as subagent prompts and results being obfuscated, I just let Pi spawn new agents. Using skills and extensions, I’ve essentially built a software factory using Pi an…

How did you decide on Pi over Opencode? What you see as the “edge” Pi has?

Not OP, but it seems to be the one most likely not following the silicon valley playbook (aka the road to enshitification).

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by freehorse » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 4:02 PM UTC

nickelpro wrote: post #173

freehorse wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not read as AI generated to me, n=1. Even if it is, it does not have all the annoying, low effort slop-tells most ai generated content has, and it is definitely much more well written. That is, if you mean all of that seriously anyway. I think it is a very good post, esp for 2026 tech space standards. If some parts of it bothered you as AI slop, please share. Usually I can point to several sentences that are…

"A transcript should contain the instructions, messages, tool calls and tool results. Another sufficiently capable model might not continue identically, but it could understand what happened and take over." This is so obviously AI generated it is painful. Once or twice in an article is rhetorical flourish, but the entire text is inundated with it.

Just curious: how would you rewrite the sentence to not seem ai generated in your tastes?

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by wren6991 » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 4:04 PM UTC

solarkraft wrote: post #9

This is an important article. I hadn’t realized it was already getting this bad. Like a frog enjoying a nice warm bath ... > Most people do not switch their operating system or phone provider every week either. But even if you do not utilize that freedom, it matters because it changes the relationship you have with the provider and the provider has with you. This is why it’s important to utilize your freedoms. Do NOT…

As a frog I'm happy to report the water is comfortably warm today, the same as it was yesterday.

Re: The session you cannot take with you

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Post by rahimnathwani » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 4:12 PM UTC

theturtletalks wrote: post #120

This is exactly why Pi will win. It lets you hot swap models when one is struggling or straight up refusing the task. And since it works with any sub outside Claude Code, you can use it to try different models on OpenCode Go sub or even OpenRouter. As far as subagent prompts and results being obfuscated, I just let Pi spawn new agents. Using skills and extensions, I’ve essentially built a software factory using Pi an…

How will Pi help? If I'm using pi with my ChatGPT subscription, that won't unlock access to full, unencrypted reasoning traces. If I switch a pi conversation from 5.6-sol to kimi k3, the 5.6-sol reasoning traces won't be visible to kimi k3. I think that's the main point of the article, no?