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There's something a bit heart-warming about this. When you sign up for the newsletter, it gives you an optional checkbox to ask if you give them permission to send you the newsletter you are signing up for.

This is in stark contrast to the standard model where services typically don't give you a checkbox but sign you up for every spam mailer in the galaxy anyway.

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post #206

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Why do you lie? Between 1997 and 2013, girls were abused by grooming gangs of predominantly Pakistani men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

Rotherdam is the most famous case yes. But there are dozens in the UK sadly, and most were not commited by people with any asian heritage. However they also got a fraction of the news coverage. The Rotherdam police had been investigated 3 times before 2013, and they failed all the inspections. The Sarah Everatt investigation found serious deficiencies in UK policing. The last 300 page comprehensive report on UK polic…

So the hoax is it was a singular big pakistani rape gang + unrelated cases, and there is no evidence of a racially motivated coverup?

EDIT no, wikipedia says plural "gangs" also. I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls?

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Rotherdam is the most famous case yes. But there are dozens in the UK sadly, and most were not commited by people with any asian heritage. However they also got a fraction of the news coverage. The Rotherdam police had been investigated 3 times before 2013, and they failed all the inspections. The Sarah Everatt investigation found serious deficiencies in UK policing. The last 300 page comprehensive report on UK polic…

So the hoax is it was a singular big pakistani rape gang + unrelated cases, and there is no evidence of a racially motivated coverup? EDIT no, wikipedia says plural "gangs" also. I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls?

The hoax is two fold

1) is that the main predictor is race

2) that the cases were uninvestigated because of race

Neither is true. Dozens of cases all found commonalities, and they were working class victims and police lack of professionalism.

> I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls?

Its an umbrella term for multiple men, having a system to take advantage of women. In some cases its offering access to drugs, in other cases is giving them gifts, sometimes its using an attractive man as bait.

A famous case happened recently in france where a man was basically drugging his wife and when she was passed out allowing men to come to his house.

Every case its a different type of horrific nightmare. People who try to make it about race instead of finding proactive solutions (like investigating how a judge in Rotherdam with video evidence in front of him ignored it) give 0 fucks about the victims.

And its unsurprising that in protests against this cases, 70% of the men attending had domestic abuse cases. Because protecting women is not their cause, hating brown people is.

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So the hoax is it was a singular big pakistani rape gang + unrelated cases, and there is no evidence of a racially motivated coverup? EDIT no, wikipedia says plural "gangs" also. I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls?

The hoax is two fold 1) is that the main predictor is race 2) that the cases were uninvestigated because of race Neither is true. Dozens of cases all found commonalities, and they were working class victims and police lack of professionalism. > I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls? Its an umbrella term for multiple men, having a system to take advan…

Oh, I thought it was rape-rape, not giving foster home girls drugs and gifts in exchange for sex they might or might not have enjoyed. Thank you for doing the dirty work of debunking.

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The hoax is two fold 1) is that the main predictor is race 2) that the cases were uninvestigated because of race Neither is true. Dozens of cases all found commonalities, and they were working class victims and police lack of professionalism. > I have zero idea what a rape gang even is, an organized crime group providing access to foster home girls? Its an umbrella term for multiple men, having a system to take advan…

Oh, I thought it was rape-rape, not giving foster home girls drugs and gifts in exchange for sex they might or might not have enjoyed. Thank you for doing the dirty work of debunking.

> I thought it was rape-rape, not giving foster home girls drugs and gifts in exchange for sex they might or might not have enjoyed.

Many of the girls are underage, and cannot consent, coercing them to do it will always be ra pe

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Yep this. I’m a paid subscriber to the economist’s podcast. A lot of their journalism is excellent. I really enjoyed the recent Tocqueville road trip. And their coverage of AI a few months ago was great - it was really interesting to hear what AI adoption in companies looks like for non technical people. Yesterday I watched a fabulous piece by the Australian 4 Corners on food fraud in our country. They did forensic r…

Whenever I encounter someone who jumps at the first opportunity to criticise "mainstream media", I ask them what their preferred outlets are. I tend to not get a response, which to me is quite telling.

There's a cool site I like: news.ycombinator.com

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> half of the news articles are just a collection of quotes from officials or politicians in public statements, being regurgitated without any additional effort that is EXACTLY what i want in news. i do not want your summarization opinion out-of-context clickbait eye-catching headline snippet. just be a parrot.

No no no. Absolutely not. A parrot repeats, we need verification. "We've always been at war with Eurasia." -Politimouth The news should say this is not true when it is not true.

how do you know the news is any more true than the source it is verifying ?

Now i have to research whether two sources are true or not.

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>The ABC in Australia feels so opinionated and tilted to the “left” side of politics whenever I’ve watched it on the TV. And it may just have been that news show or the specific host but it makes it not enjoyable to watch when it seems there’s always an “angle” and negative undertones and people constantly having an axe to grind. I’d personally like a bit more neutral news that also leans a little more on the positiv…

The ABC are sadly incredibly biased. A recent, prominent example is [1] where they edited footage to make it look like a soldier was shooting at an innocent civilian. They then appointed a 40 year abc/sbs veteran to investigate the incident who unsurprisingly found no wrong doing. All of this on a topic that isn't even super political... Granted they are still probably the best journalists in the country, but when yo…

Their biggest fault was giving back the filing cabinet.

>where they edited footage to make it look like a soldier was shooting at an innocent civilian.

In your link the ABC is claiming the footage wasnt edited by them. I mean its still a bit of weak journalism to publish it. Did that ever get resolved either way?

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I found the Economist to be a liberal rag. I mean that respectfully, and it has been a number of years since I've bothered to pick one up so maybe it has changed. I know people who I respect that read every issue cover to cover. A newspaper called The Economist should not take a hyper-critical view of conservatism or right-leaning politics across the globe, and hyper-liberal views about decisions leaders are making.…

I haven't subscribed to the Economist in 15 years but I'm considering re-subscribing. We used to get The Week as a gift, but it was just WAY too surface-level and "both sides-y".

> WAY too surface-level and "both sides-y"

IMHO this is an indicator that they are doing a great job. The opposite being "extremely niche and biased".

I don't need to know the deep inner workings of India's goings on, and especially don't need my first introduction to it being profoundly myopic and spun. Which is what I find the Economist to be guilty of.

Give me surface level and neutral.

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post #123

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I found the Economist to be a liberal rag. I mean that respectfully, and it has been a number of years since I've bothered to pick one up so maybe it has changed. I know people who I respect that read every issue cover to cover. A newspaper called The Economist should not take a hyper-critical view of conservatism or right-leaning politics across the globe, and hyper-liberal views about decisions leaders are making.…

Why not read both FT and the Economist? Both are well written and well researched and although they both take an ulta-capitalist view of the world (might be good to also read something more socialist-leaning), at least when it comes to social issues you might get a bit more of a nuance by comparing their takes.

It's a good point I just don't have the time to devote.

I like to be informed I don't necessarily need to be able to deliver a nuanced treatise on current global events. When I become supreme chief I'll have my cabinet read both.

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