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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Why do we want to add more bodies on a finite plane of existence with an infinitely-expanding base (humans)? We have a finite plane of existence (Earth), with an infinitely-expanding consumer base (humans), and we want to add robotic competition to that finite plane of existence? The data center AI is more appealing (I guess) since it doesn't compete literally shoulder-to-shoulder with me. Why do we want dexterous ro…

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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I'm a researcher at Deepmind that contributed to these models. (And the opinions here are my own) Just want to say, Deepmind is a great place to work and the only (Edit: one the few unique labs!) lab where you can move from large frontier models (Gemini), frontier open models (Gemma), robotics (what you see here), science (weather, biology, more) and basically any other topic related to intelligence. It's really an i…

Is DeepMind basically Google innovation hub ???

What happens when those ideas need to be scaled into real products, though? For instance, I can't really imagine Google being fully committed to manufacturing and selling robotic arms at scale.

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If you can even afford 20K you're in the top 10% of the US population. It's not a very big market, and even selling to that market is hard. Probably only 10% of that 10% will actually buy, and all of a sudden you're selling to 1%. Selling to businesses is much easier, 99% of businesses can afford 200K if it replaces 3 x 70K humans.

People in the US buy cars. Can a household robot provide as much utility as a car? If "yes", the market gets pretty big.

You don't even "need" to clean your house (yes, yes, I know). You do need to drive to work.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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I'm a researcher at Deepmind that contributed to these models. (And the opinions here are my own) Just want to say, Deepmind is a great place to work and the only (Edit: one the few unique labs!) lab where you can move from large frontier models (Gemini), frontier open models (Gemma), robotics (what you see here), science (weather, biology, more) and basically any other topic related to intelligence. It's really an i…

What are you doing to prevent abuses by governments, corporations and militaries? (non snarky question) How much of this technology is going to benefit and uplift the Common Peasant and how is going to be used for increasing surveillance and control?

Lol.. why do people ask employees this stuff as though they're the ones controlling big decisions?

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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What are you doing to prevent abuses by governments, corporations and militaries? (non snarky question) How much of this technology is going to benefit and uplift the Common Peasant and how is going to be used for increasing surveillance and control?

Lol.. why do people ask employees this stuff as though they're the ones controlling big decisions?

"Just following orders"

is how some of the worst shit in human history went down.

They're literally CREATING the tech and tools and you're saying don't even question them about potential and proven misuse?? lol

They're the first people that should be asked this question.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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I don't think a cleaning robot and a vehicle are in the same category, as vehicles are more a necessity (at the very least to get to and from your jobs, to buy groceries, etc) and a cleaning robot is squarely a luxury.

Vehicles, when first invented, were 100% a luxury, not a necessity. They only became a “necessity” once they went mainstream and the world started evolving with vehicles becoming a part of everyday life. I can certainly see the same thing happening with residential robotics.

Only way I can see that happening is if you somehow get fired for not folding your laundry, in the same way people are fired when their car breaks and they can't make it to work.

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Robot lawnmowers are mostly over $1000 already and they only do one thing. Heck, a lot of lawnmowers are over $1000. You can pay over $500 for an automatic cat litter box. Robot vacuums can be cheap but run to $600 or so. Household appliances is a robust sector where people have a proven track record of spending a lot of money.

I have personally never met someone with a personal robotic lawnmower, and I suspect that if you have you live in a bubble that is severely biasing your view of the average American.

My cousin has one. But he also lives on 5 acres, which is also not average either.

Apparently prices on them have gone way up. The one he has now would cost something like $6K today.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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It's certainly an odd situation where Google is on the forefront of all these emerging technologies while the latest chatbots from OpenAI and Anthropic are getting breathless press releases and wildly hyperbolic coverage ("rogue AIs" "too dangerous, must be banned" etc...) Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away, meanwhile the hype cycle is propping up its upstart competitors to tr…

Google wins on infrastructure and creativity (NotebookLM, etc) but entirely lacks product coherence. The ecosystem is a mess, just like Microsoft's offering, and I don't think this is a coincidence but rather a symptom of the type of company in which these two companies have evolved. Furthermore, Gemini is just all around a less trustworthy and mature model, for many reasons. Very smart but lacking the precision and…

Everything would be perfect if only you were CEO of both companies!

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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I'm a researcher at Deepmind that contributed to these models. (And the opinions here are my own) Just want to say, Deepmind is a great place to work and the only (Edit: one the few unique labs!) lab where you can move from large frontier models (Gemini), frontier open models (Gemma), robotics (what you see here), science (weather, biology, more) and basically any other topic related to intelligence. It's really an i…

Important question: how many engineers does it take to teach a robot how to screw in a light bulb?
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