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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Post by s08148692 »

mlyle wrote: post #81
heaney-555 wrote: post #73

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Why not both?

Big humanoid robots are expensive, the actuators still suck, and the control problems are hard. Their big advantage is that they can occupy human-shaped spaces, but struggle to do anything useful. Not to say we won't get humanoid robots eventually, but I think there's probably some low hanging fruit for people to make some other kinds of solutions. Specialized robots for industrial environment, well-thought out appli…

We have Google, Figure, Tesla, Boston Dynamics, and literally dozens of Chinese companies building humanoid robots and making huge improvements in the tech. Not there yet by any means as a general-purpose home assistant, but I don't think it will be too surprising if at least one of them succeeds

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Post by RandomLensman »

iinnPP wrote: post #58
RandomLensman wrote: post #36

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Honestly: why?

The list of plausible answers is long enough as to question why you felt the need to include the word honestly, irony? One example: social anxiety.

Not irony: why manage machines with all the issues that go with that instead of people?

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Post by margalabargala »

RandomLensman wrote: post #76
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #59

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I don't want a person I don't know very well in my space. That aside: if I'm lucky enough to find a person who's good and reliable, they might move away, switch jobs etc. It has all the headaches that come with hiring and managing someone, because, well, it is exactly that... If I don't want to be a manager at work (been there done that, happy to let others do it and get the raise that comes along with it), I sure as…

You'd need to manage the robot, too, I would think. In my experience, I rather manage people than machines.

Sure, but others have the opposite preference. Machines tend to be more predictable.

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Post by ashleyn »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #12

These robots look slow and not very fluid in their motions, but LLMs like ChatGPT also looked very dumb initially. If progress is as fast as LLMs , this could have massive applications in a few years.

Gotta admit google is pretty ballsy for directly attacking Moravec's Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

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Post by fidotron »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #12

These robots look slow and not very fluid in their motions, but LLMs like ChatGPT also looked very dumb initially. If progress is as fast as LLMs , this could have massive applications in a few years.

They're fluid, but they are slow, which is highly likely to be a safety thing, which will have the side effect of making many motions more difficult, not less.

LLMs aren't themselves hurting anyone, no matter how much certain people like to pretend otherwise, whereas an AI in a robot with significant motors in absolutely can and will. There are reasons industrial ones live in safety cages after all.

Expecting them to be like inverse kinematic driven digital dolls is wrong because the optimization won't be for matching that but something like "net reduce energy consumption" which for electric motors in multi joint arms will look a bit odd.

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Post by georgemcbay »

andsoitis wrote: post #55
ausbah wrote: post #35

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and this is good?

If all goes well, imagine a world in which you work because you want to not because you have to.

> If all goes well, imagine a world in which you work because you want to not because you have to.

And if all goes bad, imagine a world in which you and your family are homeless and starve to death.

Luckily the politicians and business leaders in place today who are going to be responsible for navigating us to one of these outcomes are the adults in the room, very ethical, even keeled and not the least bit corrupt. So... we should be fine! /s

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Post by margalabargala »

jameshart wrote: post #82
baron816 wrote: post #67

I don’t think this is where the robotics revolution is going to happen. The big one will be using AI to design and build highly specialized robots to automate mining and manufacturing.

The AI will need generalized robots to build the highly specialized ones.

Why would building specialized robots require generalized robots?

Seems to me you'd do better if you built the robots with robots that were specialized in building robots.

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