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Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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“Oh no AI is totally getting too powerful! White House must intervene! …pls invest more money”

You'd think one of the first things the AI would do once it truly gets that powerful is make a lot more money for its owner.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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free market ;)

You and competitors are free to ask the White House for help. The White House is free to say “no”. Look at all that freedom!

The White House is also free to say "what's in it for us?" Or "yes, if this crypto wallet receives value regularly".

Look at that mercantilism!

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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I don't think open-weight models are what motivated these specific comments. It's a way of deflecting OpenAI's failure with HuggingFace/etc as a natural consequence of powerful AI instead of a specific problem with OpenAI's recklessness.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilli…

    If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that.

     If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race.
No, in point of fact, they can not do this. To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them to severe personal liability and in some jurisdictions also jail time.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilli…

If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. No, in point of fact, they can not do this. To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them…

> To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty

Is openAI not technically still a nonprofit? In any case, this argument doesn't make sense, it's like saying Boeing didn't have a choice wrt the 737 Max because had they waited, they would have been in breach of their fiduciary duty.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilli…

If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. No, in point of fact, they can not do this. To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them…

“I can’t stop doing x because I got myself into x and if I quit doing the x I agreed to do despite my apprehension about x then I could go to jail. But guys we should really slow down doing x.”

Unless the only thing he’s asking for is for his own company to be nationalized then at this point he’s saying one thing and meaning another.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilli…

If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. No, in point of fact, they can not do this. To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them…

1) If the AI companies act in reckless fashion and cause economic harm they may be facing class-action lawsuits, and maybe jail time for key individuals who knew the risk.

2) Your argument is like saying that a car company that wants to push back the delivery date to make the car safe could be sued by investors for not rushing it out the door.

3) They can cancel acceleration and borrowing plans.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

#38
post #7

Nah, he's talking about accelerating his net worth, it just happens to be that right now slowing AI might do that. Especially if it affects his competition.

Maybe this is part of some complicated plan to increase his net worth or maybe he's worried that the AI juggernaut will get him killed (along with everyone else) if it keeps going the way it has been. I know I'm worried.

> AI juggernaut

Ah, the spherical cow in vacuum at the event horizon is a scary sight indeed, everybody should be worried, the more the merrier.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

#39
post #6

“Oh no AI is totally getting too powerful! White House must intervene! …pls invest more money”

You'd think one of the first things the AI would do once it truly gets that powerful is make a lot more money for its owner.

I think Asimov wrote a short story about that in one of his earlier collections. Can't remember if it was a Multivac story or not.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilli…

If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that. If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race. No, in point of fact, they can not do this. To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them…

> To do so would be a breach of fiduciary duty to their shareholders and investors, exposing them to severe personal liability and in some jurisdictions also jail time.

This is not true.

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