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Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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free market ;)

You and competitors are free to ask the White House for help. The White House is free to say “no”. Look at all that freedom!

The White House is free to say “no” (to some of you)

FTFY

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Most of them sure (even if they don't, most at least outwardly present as so), but Musk seems to be a bit not even that these days: Elon Musk Yeah, I mean, yes, pretty much. Let's, let's enjoy the ride. I think my philosophy at this point because I mean honestly there seems to be just an inexorable progress here in Al and, and in robots that even if I wanted to stop it, and I don't, I couldn't. Zanny Minton Beddoes D…

Arguably, being a billionaire and being a compassionate human being are mutually exclusive. You'd spend your wealth and not be a billionaire anymore. The only question is how much of a grey zone is there between these 2 points.

Everyone's somewhere in the grey zone, even the beatified within Catholicism are imperfect mere mortals by Catholic standards.

Philanthropy is always hard to place exactly. When you're a normal person, it's just how much money you can give to charity; when you're rich, you have to ask questions like "will my donation break something?" (Mansa Musa) or "is it better to spend all of my money at a shot to eliminate some problem forever, or put all the money in a charitable trust which pays out the dividends it earns each year forever, without ever fully fixing it but always at least helping?" (how is the Gates foundation doing with all the recent stuff about the guy himself?)

I think Richard Branson is generally considered to be a decent person?

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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free market ;)

You and competitors are free to ask the White House for help. The White House is free to say “no”. Look at all that freedom!

And I'm free of means of production too, so I am free to starve or sell my labor force! So much freedom!

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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I don't think open-weight models are what motivated these specific comments. It's a way of deflecting OpenAI's failure with HuggingFace/etc as a natural consequence of powerful AI instead of a specific problem with OpenAI's recklessness.

How can it be about anything other than China / open weights ? If OpenAI wanted to slow down their own research and/or releases they could do that without the government telling them to do that.

If Anthropic and OpenAI both genuinely want deceleration, then just make a joint agreement to pause releases and stop trying to front-run the race.

You can't simultaneously claim China is only somewhat keeping up by "distilling" your models, and not acknowledge that therefore it's your models, not China's, that is dangerously accelerating frontier capabilities.

US AI companies "help, we're destroying society - please stop us".

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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I don't think open-weight models are what motivated these specific comments. It's a way of deflecting OpenAI's failure with HuggingFace/etc as a natural consequence of powerful AI instead of a specific problem with OpenAI's recklessness.

In the words of the meme, "why not both?"

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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Not sure how much I trust AI labs to do the right thing.

Absolutely not. But I think it’s fair to assume they want themselves and their loved ones to survive.

Unless you plan in start being his loved one, I don't see how much this improves things.

Re: Sam Altman is now talking to the White House about decelerating AI

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Nah, he's talking about accelerating his net worth, it just happens to be that right now slowing AI might do that. Especially if it affects his competition.

Maybe this is part of some complicated plan to increase his net worth or maybe he's worried that the AI juggernaut will get him killed (along with everyone else) if it keeps going the way it has been. I know I'm worried.
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