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Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by marssaxman »

ripe wrote: post #20
sssilver wrote: post #17

> What stayed with me was not the swimming. It was that none of it looked planned. She was not spending her afternoon at the lake, she was just going through her day, and the lake happened to be part of it. Fascinating phenomenon, but this sentence caused me to stop reading and close the tab. "Slop", I thought. Now I think about it, I'm not even sure I can put my finger on what about that sentence came across as AI s…

Hmm, you might be right about that paragraph. I am very sensitive to LLM smells, but I missed this one, probably because the rest of the essay seems handwritten. Of course, one can never be sure. Many writers are picking up on this style, too, so it could have organic origins.

Of course it has organic origins: where else could the LLM have learned it?

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by ant6n »

byratino wrote: post #23

Parc Lafontaine in Montreal is really great too. It has: - a pond (ice-skating in the winter) - outdoors theatre - indoor theatre - Petanque court - Training bikepark for kids - Playgrounds - Tennis, Soccer, baseball - So much trees and picnic spots, on the ground and tables - A little non-profit restaurant And just generally a good vibe. We really have a great park culture in the city, that's not even our best one.…

…and so many people. There’s not enough green space in Montreal.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by ant6n »

sssilver wrote: post #17

> What stayed with me was not the swimming. It was that none of it looked planned. She was not spending her afternoon at the lake, she was just going through her day, and the lake happened to be part of it. Fascinating phenomenon, but this sentence caused me to stop reading and close the tab. "Slop", I thought. Now I think about it, I'm not even sure I can put my finger on what about that sentence came across as AI s…

She was not doing x, she was doing y, and surprising insight z.

It’s borderline, could just as well be just human text.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by mc32 »

jrflo wrote: post #10
SoftTalker wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it varies. "Park" can mean anything from basically wild forest to maintained green space and it may or may not include ammenities such as you listed.

Sure. "State" and "National" parks mean something different than most city or county parks, which tend to be more amenity focused.

States also have many wilderness areas, preserves, recreation area, forests, etc. both federal and state varieties]

https://www.doi.gov/blog/americas-public-lands-explained

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by mns »

somnium_sn wrote: post #6

One of my favorite parks and much lesser knows is Westpark in Munich. Similarly built around usage and still unique since it was originally built for a national garden exhibition it features a rich set of small little areas from around the world, a Japanese party, a Chinese part, French areas, English areas. It has outdoor theaters, playgrounds, a lake, a communial area and much more . It’s worth a visit when you are…

I wanted to say the same thing, Westpark is a gem, loved living next to it and miss it a lot. One of my favorite things there is the Kino Mond un Sterne, during summer they play movies in this open air amphitheatre surrounded by trees and with a small lake with a fountain on the other side.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by swiftcoder »

A couple of years back I took a horse and carriage ride around the Lüneburger Heide, a nature preserve just south of Hamburg. They really do a very good job of this sort of thing all over the region. Which I very much appreciate, because on balance a lot of this region of Germany feels like visiting midwestern suburbs...

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by hans_castorp »

sssilver wrote: post #17

> What stayed with me was not the swimming. It was that none of it looked planned. She was not spending her afternoon at the lake, she was just going through her day, and the lake happened to be part of it. Fascinating phenomenon, but this sentence caused me to stop reading and close the tab. "Slop", I thought. Now I think about it, I'm not even sure I can put my finger on what about that sentence came across as AI s…

I frowned over the "none of it looked planned" - the whole description sounds as if that swim was exactly that: planned from the beginning.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by aktau »

mns wrote: post #35
somnium_sn wrote: post #6

One of my favorite parks and much lesser knows is Westpark in Munich. Similarly built around usage and still unique since it was originally built for a national garden exhibition it features a rich set of small little areas from around the world, a Japanese party, a Chinese part, French areas, English areas. It has outdoor theaters, playgrounds, a lake, a communial area and much more . It’s worth a visit when you are…

I wanted to say the same thing, Westpark is a gem, loved living next to it and miss it a lot. One of my favorite things there is the Kino Mond un Sterne, during summer they play movies in this open air amphitheatre surrounded by trees and with a small lake with a fountain on the other side.

Yea, both Westpark itself and the open-air cinema inside the park are stellar.

It surprises me that no-one has mentioned Munich's premier city park though: the English Garden (Englischer Garten): https://maps.app.goo.gl/ug5fg8KUBHPWvRPD7.

It is, frankly, amazing. I've never seen infrastructure of this kind so close to the people, so sprawling and so well kept. People swim in side arms of the Isar too, many floating (see pictures near the start at https://maps.app.goo.gl/krgaM2tTKdzCzW398, where people surf on the mini-river).

Of the places I've been, Munich is by far the best one in this area (and many others) that I know.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by troupo »

Aldipower wrote: post #26

Hamburg is one of the greenest cities in the world (summertime). Not too far from the Stadtpark you'll find the Olsdorfer Friedhof, which is the largest "park cemetery" in Europe. If the Stadtpark is still too busy for you, despite it actually never is really, the cemetery is even quieter to find some rest and a refreshing walk. I know it sounds strange, but I mean it. :-)

> Hamburg is one of the greenest cities in the world (summertime).

It really puts many of the cities I consider very green (like Stockholm) to shame. Mild climate and high humidity, and boom, you have a jungle.

Re: Hamburg's Stadtpark: A Park Built to Be Used

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Post by woodpanel »

Aldipower wrote: post #26

Hamburg is one of the greenest cities in the world (summertime). Not too far from the Stadtpark you'll find the Olsdorfer Friedhof, which is the largest "park cemetery" in Europe. If the Stadtpark is still too busy for you, despite it actually never is really, the cemetery is even quieter to find some rest and a refreshing walk. I know it sounds strange, but I mean it. :-)

This is not a coincidence: City Planner Fritz Schumacher formulated the "Featherplan" [0], which outlay how the city would grow outwards while always maintaining common access to greenery, parks etc.

As a result, many quarters of Hamburg not just have direct access to a park, but to a park which directly connects them to the city center, thus it is possible to enter your local park and cycle/walk/jog straight into the city center without ever (really) leaving the greenery.

[0] https://www.hamburg.de/resource/image/280814/landscape_ratio...

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