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Post by bijowo1676 »

stult wrote: post #126
chasd00 wrote: post #110

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If HR policy says no drugs then that’s a wrap. Allowing an employee to violate HR policy probably puts the company in all sorts of legal risks.

You can't have an HR policy that discriminates against people for receiving mental health treatment from a physician, that is plainly illegal under multiple statutes both federally and in the state of California. This was not a situation where he was on ketamine while at work, and there are no accusations that his ketamine use even affected his work at all, even incidentally or indirectly. Even if it had, Netflix wou…

the case of unstoppable force (HR) meeting an immovable target (FMLA, ADA, EEOC, FEHA)

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Post by xnx »

ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

Was the CEO David Brent?

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Post by president_zippy »

mrloopex wrote: post #130

The stereotype is real. A guy I work with is part of what they call the Divorced Dad Club. He’s 56 and gets together with a bunch of other divorced dads to do ketamine and play video games. They’re all in the mid 50s, white, and in tech. And keep getting played by puffy lipped 30 somethings.

What's wrong with being white?

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Post by president_zippy »

wat10000 wrote: post #430
thot_experiment wrote: post #167

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A mutually beneficial agreement can still be adversarial? If you're getting shaken down by the mafia it's beneficial for you to pay them protection money.

You’d be better off without the shakedown altogether. Not true for a job you willingly take and stay in.

"The man who gives me employment, which I must have or suffer, that man is my master, let me call him what I will."

-Henry George

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Post by s1artibartfast »

mlrtime wrote: post #356
s1artibartfast wrote: post #223

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Genuine question. Can you tell me why people love saying this so much?

Work as a Manager in a large tech org and you will see very quickly how the company operates (HR / HRBP). The higher you go up the quicker you see that employees aren't looked at as people, but as numbers or dollars. My first manager job I was very naive, I went to HR to get help with directs. It was a bad idea, it put me and my direct at risk... never again. The sad truth is that the managers who actually care and w…

I am a manager. I have those conversations regularly (its my job). I have had tough conversations about if we should burn out an entire team or not, likely losing them, so i get it.

My question was not about if it is true or not, but why people like saying it so much.

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Post by ksenzee »

happymellon wrote: post #431
ksenzee wrote: post #419

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Having previously been a member of such a religion, and having left it specifically over human rights issues, I am delighted to inform you that there are many individuals who identify as members of such religions but who are not personally bigoted, and who in fact may privately be uncomfortable about that aspect of their religious belief. If you already know someone, and you have reason to believe they're not bigoted…

Unfortunately I am going to have to disagree. Also as someone who was a member of church which had anti-christian ideals, pointing out the hypocrisy can be the only way for them to question what they are in. Doing and saying nothing helps no one.

There's a large middle ground between saying nothing in the face of bigotry and proceeding immediately from "oh you're a member of ?" to an itemized list of hypocrisies, without stopping to find out what the individual person in front of you actually thinks about said hypocrisies. All I'm advocating for is that last: talk to people like they're people, not like they're mindless members of .

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Post by galangalalgol »

GJim wrote: post #444
not-kinsale-joe wrote: post #279

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UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen.

> UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen I prefer the term 'enlightened'. Here in Blighty, if somebody got rat-arsed at an office party, photocopied their arse and puked in the Yucca plant, they would be regarded as an absolute legend (providing they didn't make a habit of it).

Have the recent studies indicating just how dangerous alcohol consumption is made any impact. Losing a few neurons was one thing but some of the studies don't put it as much less dangerous than tobacco. New guidance in the US is there is no safe quantity and no one should have more than one serving a day. I know a lot of younger sw devs in the US that simply do not drink ever. I once would have said that was a little unusual, but now it is the norm. I suspect it will be stigmatized akin to smoking not that far into the future.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

tchalla wrote: post #368
s1artibartfast wrote: post #146

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There's a huge difference between being yourself and not having a filter. I absolutely think people should be themselves at work. In my mind this generally means not acting like a robot or treating other people like toasters. It is psychologically crushing to operate in a they're all workplace where people do that. The best managers I've ever had were those I could discuss my emotions or that of my team with. That sa…

The challenge is that your line for filter is another person's line for censorship and a third person's line for "not being yourself".

Yep, that is inherent in the Human Condition. Other people have different opinions than mine.

I mostly curious why people seem to expect a world free of this challenge, and look for obviously wrong black and white rules to avoid dealing with that reality.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

reactordev wrote: post #288
aljgz wrote: post #163

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This is a recipe for a sad life. It's avoiding friendship for the fear of betrayal. You get a lot of benefits by being good friends with colleagues. There are, however important things to be aware of: 1- "Though shall not" limit their social life to their colleagues (or any single group that can disappear with a divorce, change of jobs, or hobby, maybe because of an incident). 2- "Though shall not" blindly help peopl…

>”this is a recipe for a sad life” No, this is a recipe for surviving corporate America. You can have and make friends but be cautious of coworkers that you work directly with. I’ve made friends outside of work. I’ve made friends at work but I do not expect to be friends with everyone I work with.

"work friends aren't real friends, but they sometimes can be"

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Post by eudamoniac »

happymellon wrote: post #401
simtel20 wrote: post #322

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I would guess that the casino is a relatively cheap space that can do entertainment and conferences and food, and it's not being chosen for the gambling aspects

I get what they offer, I guess I just don't see that as team building.

Having fun with people in general is team building. Amusement park would do the same thing. It doesn't have to be any special format.
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