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Well I don't think it should be necessary to use HTML to read your comments, but here we are. Why don't you make a de-JSing Google proxy? Like SearX-NG?
HN has an official API that returns JSON objects. Meanwhile Google actively blocks and attempts to pursue legal action against scrapers. Not to mention prohibiting it through TOS (getting your Google account revoked can be life-ruining for many people).
The irony is that Google's success was built on crawling and indexing the open web. I understand wanting to protect your product, but once you remove affordable APIs and then object to third parties filling that gap, you're creating demand for the very behavior you're trying to discourage
I dont get the irony. Google respects if one doesnt want to get indexed by the crawler: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/...
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Google has no moat anymore. - Google search is on the way out. I don't know any of my peers who use it anymore. - Coding models make doing extreme depth of work possible. - Hoards of unemployed engineers now have access to 10x coding utilities and are looking for things to do. They will start clawing away at Google products. - Just the other day, someone cloned Google Gsuite and it looked awesome - Drive and Search w…
> - I'm itching at the chance to build my own phone operating system, and there must be thousands of others who want to do the same. Maybe look into contributing to existing alternatives like PostmarketOS. https://postmarketos.org/
Let me revise that super abbreviated prognostication to hint at what I was really trying to say.
I think a lot of people are going to start to look at replacing Android and iOS, and some of these will be decently funded teams. Some perhaps not even based in the US.
Attacking the phone market used to be unthinkable. Not even Facebook could pull it off.
But now? I think it's open season again.
Even if the problems to solve are truly deeper than they appear, LLMs are going to give people so much energy to look past the difficulty.
DMCA needs to be reformed one day.
Copyright should be abolished.
I'd be more OK with this if Google had a good API for their search results. But they've deprecated it, and now there is no alternative. So I'll continue to use 3rd parties that scrape Google results, until they change their mind.
I stopped using Google once it started requiring JS for search. That was the day the open web truly died.
I stopped using Google Web search as well after this point
NB. The autocomplete endpoint at clients1.google.com for example does not require Javascript, nor HTTPS
One could take the Google suggestions and search those strings in other search engines. Would the search results differ
Google Web search might be useful for finding "popular" results as these are the only results Google LLC management wants to show its ad targets, so-called "users", because funneling ad targets to the same sites ultimately creates larger audiences for advertising and more spend from advertisers
But if one is searching for "unpopular" results, e.g., performing "discovery", then using Google Web search is, IME, certainly not the best method of searching
IME, quitting Google leads to more creative search strategies; I have found stuff that I never would have discovered using Google Web search
NB. Google Web search requires Javascript. Scholar search, News search, etc. do not
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The platform: 1. Takes money from the scammer 2. Tells the scammer how to target people 3. Serves the scam to the consumer, ensuring they see it 4. Takes a cut of the action when the scam is successful 5. Tells the scammer how to optimize their campaign 6. Continues working with scammers after they're reported The scammer has a fairly small part in the overall operation. The platform is doing almost all of the actual…
This is some awfully twisted logic to defend scammers and fraudsters. Your whole chain stops being relevant if you actually persecute criminals with the same gusto as Disney jackboots anyone voilating their IP. Instead you demand megacorps to start scanning content and censoring people.
For what it's worth, I wasn't demanding anything. I was solely pointing out that the platforms aren't neutral here. They're active participants in perpetuating these scams.
I'd be more OK with this if Google had a good API for their search results. But they've deprecated it, and now there is no alternative. So I'll continue to use 3rd parties that scrape Google results, until they change their mind.