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Re: Netflix employee fired for sharing personal details in retreat trust exercise

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Post by FaridIO »

not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #171
FaridIO wrote: post #78

I didn't know Netflix was such a stick-up-the-ass garbage place to work at. What an incredibly dumb thing to fire someone over.

I can't speak to Netflix one way or the other. But the title seems to imply it was about over sharing, while the rest of the article seems focused on the culture of constant alcohol and drugs which likely has more to do with the way things ended. Hard to say what is true with a publication like this.

The sharing and alcohol were company provided, the game of Guinness is almost certainly a silly one where after your first sip the foam lands in the middle of the G. And based on my own experience if you were to fire everyone who has ever taken psychedelics there wouldn't be many people left in at least SF and NYC tech. He shared the in California legal drug he used to deal with his mother's death. To be honest, the reason is so dumb, it feels like someone was just looking for anything to use against him..

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Post by TFNA »

ljm wrote: post #357
cosmodisk wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a few company events that could easily become the foundation for one of those films where the main characters wake up in the morning in some random Asian country. No matter how crazy people go in these parties, there's always someone watching it and taking mental notes. I stopped getting too drunk in these events since I got into more senior Nowadays my aim is usually to rescue my colleagues and get them home s…

At risk of sounding like a grump, once I started at a company where almost everyone is partnered up and has kids, and almost everyone basically has nothing to talk about except their partners and kids, I had the perfect incentive to stay away from almost all social events. Or stick around for an hour at most because of how boring it is. It became pretty clear that drinking culture in a lot of places develops around p…

Me, I've embraced occupational pubgoing as a childless person in my forties because unlike other social activities, it is a way to avoid boring people with children. At least in my country, those men get forced to stay at home, the missus won't allow them to go out socially into the evening.

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Post by lkjdsklf »

kunley wrote: post #235
aljgz wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a recipe for a sad life. It's avoiding friendship for the fear of betrayal. You get a lot of benefits by being good friends with colleagues. There are, however important things to be aware of: 1- "Though shall not" limit their social life to their colleagues (or any single group that can disappear with a divorce, change of jobs, or hobby, maybe because of an incident). 2- "Though shall not" blindly help peopl…

Disagree. It's just admitting that the company can and will be cynical when it comes to the conflict of interests between them and the employee. Making friends at the workplace is fine until there is such conflict, then where will they stand? If they will turn they back on you (and most of them will), then how much is such relation worth in the first place?

It’s also sacrificing your career.

Professional networks are a massive important part of growing/building a career. This is especially true in an environment where there are mass layoffs constantly.

Building personal and trusting relationships is a huge part of developing that network.

This doesn’t mean you should turn every coworker into your therapist, but the other extreme is also bad for both your career and your person.

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Post by 72deluxe »

itake wrote: post #250
Johnny555 wrote: post #57

Offsite retreats seem like a bad idea in general, I've never been to one where I felt the team or company worked together better afterwards, and I've seen some spectacularly bad results... like the time the facilitator tried to get to the bottom of tensions between the CTO and head of sales (the classic problem of "Engineering isn't shipping features fast enough" and "Sales is selling features before even consulting…

I worked remotely with only seeing my team a few times per year. During our last offsite, I looked around the 80+ person room and realized that I just don't enjoy working with any of these people.

I wonder if we should "enjoy" it, or whether it's just that we can't relate to the other people in the slightest when in person? I work from home and very very very rarely do I go into the office, but when I do it's quite pleasant and all but I am glad to be free of the social environment; I am there to solve things and get stuff fixed and working, not make new friends. I don't mean that nastily - I mean I go to work to work; I don't go to socialise. Some people cannot differentiate these two concepts.

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Post by cyanclouds »

Reminds me of a recent interview where they asked to what extent I used AI for dev and cautioned that it would be problematic if I said I never used it.

So I say the areas I use it.

Rejected: We need people who can work without AI.

Felt so dumb. I’m never telling the truth again.

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Post by cyanclouds »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #109

> Firing an employee for doing exactly what they were instructed to do during a mandatory retreat So fired if you don’t play along, fired if you do.

That’s why lying is the new meta. Lying works better than ever in fact they’re making us lie with the way things are going.

You’ll get more interviews and higher salaries with a simple lie.

Or you get fired for telling the truth.

I’m 1000% lying from now on.

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Post by mancerayder »

energy123 wrote: post #215
reactordev wrote: post #43

Your company, your coworkers, are not your friends. HR is not there for you, it's to protect the company from you. Do not disclose personal information to those who control your livelihood. Once you leave or if you build up a personal relationship with a coworker, outside of work, then maybe. Even still. I will never divulge what I have been through simply because corporate wants to be "inclusive".

The workplace is one of the best places to find your spouse. It's where you spend most of your time and where you're most likely to meet someone with similar interests to you in the same location. It's anti-human to treat the workplace as this clinical saferoom with no relationships.

In the US, it's an extremely dangerous place to look for a spouse. I've seen some ugly situations. Maybe it's better to look for a spouse when the job market favors employees - that way, when you need to leave after the breakup, you can find a new job.

Also, in IT there's not a very diverse group of people to search from. When it comes to women, the ratio of hetero men to hetero women is insanely not favorable.

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Post by nosrepa »

FaridIO wrote: post #391
not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak to Netflix one way or the other. But the title seems to imply it was about over sharing, while the rest of the article seems focused on the culture of constant alcohol and drugs which likely has more to do with the way things ended. Hard to say what is true with a publication like this.

The sharing and alcohol were company provided, the game of Guinness is almost certainly a silly one where after your first sip the foam lands in the middle of the G. And based on my own experience if you were to fire everyone who has ever taken psychedelics there wouldn't be many people left in at least SF and NYC tech. He shared the in California legal drug he used to deal with his mother's death. To be honest, the…

To clarify, the article states that he drank a Guinness while standing on his head.

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Post by JohnFen »

sillyfluke wrote: post #385
72deluxe wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but if they wanted any of their 6 million lines of COM-laden C++ to continue working into the future, they'd need those sort of people.

Their numbers might be dwindling, but I would wager there are still some devs out there burning the candle from both ends. To be fair, I find US forced company events like this way more unbearable than UK/European ones. In the US, the incessant combination of excessive alcohol with neurotic self-awareness gets you to another level of hell. In another FAANG, the L7s were complaining that the level of office machinatio…

> I find US forced company events like this way more unbearable than UK/European ones.

I'm not familiar with European ones, but I agree that forced company events like this is the US are unbearable. I rejoiced once I hit a point in my career where I could safely skip attending them.

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