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Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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The crawlers would have still just hammered their site though, right?

Why is your comment exactly word for word of another comment just one level above in the comment chain?

Because I am pointing out that the same exact thing would still happen even when commenter's "fix" would be applied.

You're bad at understanding context. Word for word was just me poking fun at that comment

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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"One Reddit theory even suggested it was a deliberate rug pull designed to cripple the free site to push people towards paid products." I know this isn't really the point of the article, but I've been thinking about this a lot. I wonder if we're going to see more resources go this way. I used to publish little doo-dads as opensource software. Not because it was something that was legitimately ground breaking or anyth…

> “…gets scraped and added to a pile of training data to later be monetized…”

I feel you. It reminds me of the "Freedom for any purpose" doctrine of FOSS and the moral question of FOSS in military usage.

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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A couple years ago, I was running a website which allowed the public to view all the US government handouts to small businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic. It also tracked all the fraudulent loans being prosecuted by the DOJ, and allowed anyone to run structured queries over the public dataset. There was a "donate" button which took in ~$2k in donations over the lifetime of the site, and you could download the enti…

For what it’s worth, a Hetzner dedicated server has unlimited ingress and egress. It seems like it’s the only provider that does. Egress fees suck. You can get a beefy one for about $40/mo on their server auction site. Just... don’t miss payments. Ever. Or they’ll delete your server within a week or so.

Only if you get gigabit networking (which can transfer only so much in a month). If you get 10Gbit/s, it's not unlimited anymore.

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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Why should that be necessary? You can unilaterally stop trading 'before a market closes with some time buffer to prevent this.' No need for centralised action.

Because markets succeed or fail based on perceived fairness. It is in a prediction market’s best interest to not become the place where you go to get fleeced. Today they’re the Wild West and run like the early days of darknet markets, but if the

> Because markets succeed or fail based on perceived fairness.

Commodities markets in the US only got anti-insider-trading rules very recently. I don't think fairness perceptions have changed much?

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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For what it’s worth, a Hetzner dedicated server has unlimited ingress and egress. It seems like it’s the only provider that does. Egress fees suck. You can get a beefy one for about $40/mo on their server auction site. Just... don’t miss payments. Ever. Or they’ll delete your server within a week or so.

Only if you get gigabit networking (which can transfer only so much in a month). If you get 10Gbit/s, it's not unlimited anymore.

Could you link to anything supporting that claim? I can’t find it.

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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Only if you get gigabit networking (which can transfer only so much in a month). If you get 10Gbit/s, it's not unlimited anymore.

Could you link to anything supporting that claim? I can’t find it.

On the 10G Uplink documentation page: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-...

> The included traffic volume for outgoing traffic is 20TB. There is no bandwidth limitation. Overusage is billed with € 1.00 ($ 1.20)/TB. Incoming and internal traffic is unlimited.

So only egress is paid on 10Gbit, but still.

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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>But now I'm really reluctant to give more stuff to the free web. Because the fact that it gets scraped and added to a pile of training data to later be monetized really rubs me the wrong way. I dont get this. You provided something for free to help people, but dont want to do that anymore because it might go into training data and help many many more people? So far LLMs have been loan funded donations of loss leadin…

I think the sheer magnitude of the economics have made the scales fall from a lot of people's eyes. For decades people put stuff on the internet for free on the assumption it was "not worth" anything. It turns out that as soon as that commons can be enclosed, we can marshal hundreds of dollars for every single living human, to pay for this commons to be repackaged. The money is there, and we're happy to spend it, we…

It remains to be seen whether the commons can be enclosed here.

Re: What happened to TheNumbers.com

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There is also the deep magic... https://github.com/phiresky/sql.js-httpvfs

I'm curious how this compares to just using DuckDB in the browser? https://duckdb.org/2021/10/29/duckdb-wasm

Different pros and cons -- SQLite is smaller is the big one
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