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US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during airport search

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Post by mexicocitinluez »

gruez wrote: post #45
mexicocitinluez wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So if someone was doing insider trading, and the SEC came knocking, then immediately afterwards they start burning every document they have and microwaving their computers, do you think they should get off the hook? Apples and oranges. They presumably already have some sort of evidence in order to get a warrant and are under criminal investigation. According to the article the agents said it was just a normal part…

>They presumably already have some sort of evidence in order to get a warrant and are under criminal investigation. What if there was no warrant, and the SEC just came to ask questions?

If they came to ask questions, then they presumably already think I've committed a crime. This is not the same as randomly stopping someone and asking to see their phone.

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Post by prepend »

inigyou wrote: post #605
invalidusernam3 wrote: post #483

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This seems like an insane thing to have to do for visiting a supposed first world country. If phones had been around during USSR times I imagine you would have had to do the same. Personally I will rather just avoid any travel to the US, and I hope others do the same.

The US is first world on a technicality: the first world is defined as countries that were allied with the US during the cold war. If not for that, it'd be classified as developing. It's common to mix up developing/developed and third/first world because they were largely aligned during the cold war. But there is one first-world developing country.

Why do yo think the US should be classified as a developing nation?

There’s a definition independent from 1st/2nd/3rd world [0] and the US’ income seems to clearly make it developed.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

Re: US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during airport search

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Post by dmantis »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #496
itake wrote: post #389

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can you share the link? This? https://www.eff.org/document/eff-border-search-pocket-guide ---- Seems the better strategy (for iOS) is come in with a plan to say yes to agents without pissing them off (like handing them an empty phone). better to local back up, encrypt, upload to your home server etc. Then login to a fresh iCloud account, selectively install apps, photos, and mail accounts. So it doesn't look like you…

who believes an empty phone?

The point is not what they believe, but how to avoid both breaking the law and not giving up your data, isn't it?

As long as that's legal, what they believe doesn't matter.

You are not legally obliged to keep your data on your devices all the time.

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Post by Gareth321 »

eru wrote: post #560
Gareth321 wrote: post #518

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I believe they can. I believe they can even request your social media credentials, despite that being against the ToS for those sites. It's not against the law to refuse, but they can and will reject entry on that basis.

That's interesting. I don't even know most of my passwords (thanks to password managers).

Don't worry, they can ask for that password too :D

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Post by gcanyon »

I'm not doing anything the government should be worried about. Nevertheless my pin has for a long time been longer than standard, specifically on the very long-shot possibility someone decides they want to crack it.

Anyone know if this is a viable strategy on iOS, and what the required pin-length is these days?

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