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If I talked about how I needed to recover from being raised in a progressive environment, it would not be so well received in well-respected tech circles. There's an assymetry here no one wants to acknowledge.
I don't know anyone who had to "recover" from being raised by "progressive" parents. Is this actually a thing? What would there be to recover from exactly?
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I don't know anyone who had to "recover" from being raised by "progressive" parents. Is this actually a thing? What would there be to recover from exactly?
See? I can't even mention it without scare quotes and downvotes :)
Yes, really makes you think.
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Fizzbuzz is interesting because it relies on either the candidate remembering the modulo operator, or the interviewer allowing them to write a modulo function. I can understand why a candidate could forget how to find the remainder from an integer division. The bigger issue is not having seen fizzbuzz before, really.
Fizzbuzz is not the least bit interesting on a technical level. It's interesting because even though it's trivial to "cheat" (you can just learn/memorize Fizzbuzz specifically), it still works because people so incompetent they can't even write something as trivial as Fizzbuzz are unlikely to have heard of it. Fizzbuzz is used to confirm an already present suspicion of complete incompetence, not to assess skill (abil…
I feel that you did not address the specifics of what I wrote. It's a silly test because it's meant to cover the bare basics but it still relies on knowing/remembering the modulo operator, which junior hires might reasonably not have seen. If everyone didn't already know about fizzbuzz it would be even more stupid.
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Fizzbuzz is interesting because it relies on either the candidate remembering the modulo operator, or the interviewer allowing them to write a modulo function. I can understand why a candidate could forget how to find the remainder from an integer division. The bigger issue is not having seen fizzbuzz before, really.
I’ve personally experienced devs who could not sum a collection of ints, “in any language of your choice”. I’m not talking about devs who got hung up on integer overflow issues (or even off-by-one errors), but rather “just couldn’t get started at all”. I have no idea what they did before or what they expected to do if they got the job, but I doubt it would turn out well.
I don't have a good explanation for how candidates with zero ability to write code can make it through a hiring funnel to sit in front of you. Maybe they don't know what they don't know.
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"y'all are black pilled about computers and security. You believe, incorrectly, that computers can't be safe AND secure AND easy to use all at the same time" This is basic fact. Man can make it; man can break it. I've never come across anything in my 44 years of life where this wasn't true.
OK, produce a SHA-2 collision.
Then again, I did defeat Hermes 2 to recover my hard drive. All it took was a lot of hardware and AI and time and luck and brute force to crack the key.
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I don't know anyone who had to "recover" from being raised by "progressive" parents. Is this actually a thing? What would there be to recover from exactly?
See? I can't even mention it without scare quotes and downvotes :)
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OK, produce a SHA-2 collision.
I don't need to produce a collision, I just circumvent or exploit other parts of the system. Then again, I did defeat Hermes 2 to recover my hard drive. All it took was a lot of hardware and AI and time and luck and brute force to crack the key.
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Fizzbuzz is interesting because it relies on either the candidate remembering the modulo operator, or the interviewer allowing them to write a modulo function. I can understand why a candidate could forget how to find the remainder from an integer division. The bigger issue is not having seen fizzbuzz before, really.
I've always wondered how people who write code could possibly be unaware of the modulo operator. In the 8-bit and 16-bit CPU era, or even just when working with data types of that width, one has to be aware of wraparound / overflow if the value gets too large and that's what modulo is. Is it just developers who came of age in the 64-bit CPU era that have this gap?
Worked for 25+ years in regular business software - banking , insurance etc. I never recollect using the modulo operator.
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Religious trauma is documented in psychology. People suffer when they are indoctrinated by their parents. > this just feels mean and divisive from the perspective of a conservative OR a Christian If they feel offended maybe they should ask themselves some hard questions instead of demanding the speaker to hide his experience.
What does "indoctrinated by their parents" mean? Everyone learns from their parents and is "indoctrinated" by their values. If you grow up as an adult and discover that you disagree with their values, it doesn't mean that they "indoctrinated" you.
Parents try to impart their values, but indoctrination for me begins where they won't allow their children to come to their own, potentially disagreeing opinions. Prohibiting contact to peers with other views, that sort of thing.
You can impart values on children and try to lead by example, but ultimately, they're sovereign individuals, not their parents' property. It's the unwillingness to accept that where I see education and guidance cross the border into indoctrination.
A far better qualifier than my "I know it when I see it", for someone pretty certain they weren't indoctrinated, would probably be a grown-up's reflection on their own upbringing. If they're lucky and become an independent person, they will have a good feeling about whether their upbringing involved unacceptable levels of coercion and isolation.