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Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

#81

With the heatwaves and drought in Europe it's probably not the best time to have flaming wreckage falling from the sky.

Hasn't it occurred to you that typically when an explosive drone reaches the end of its flight, it, er.. explodes? Or that if it isn't shot down, that the last moment of its flight might kill people?

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

#82

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In September the Russians accused the Ukrainians of having repairing downed Geran drone airframes at the Lviv LORTA plant, transferring them to Yavoriv, and launching them unarmed into Poland. They presented various evidence like serial numbers, photographs of silver-tape repairs, claims that a Ukrainian SIM-card was used, lack of impact destruction, etc. What's true though? I don't believe that I have a way to find…

Russian credibility is at ~zero IMO. They've put forth so many insane theories related to this war that they started. And just on first principles, how stupid would the Ukrainian have to be to do such a thing to their biggest ally? It almost beggars belief.

The Nord Stream destruction was made to Europe by their big friend Ukraine.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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The asymmetry between the drones and the F16 neutralising them quickly makes this financially unsustainable.

Yes, but it also trains the pilots and everything around them for real action in a non war environment (you cannot just shoot anywhere in civilian airspace). And they would need to train anyway. But for a real conflict, sure, more economical solutions are on the way.

I believe that Sun Tsu said something about using your enemy's military to train your military.

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#84
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AIUI Russia has been regularly intruding into Finnish airspace and has often penetrated the land border with Georgia. It’s one of those “let’s see how much we can get away with” probes to try to establish a new status quo. I wonder how Russia would respond to NATO drones doing the same.

Turkiye demonstrated how to stop this a decade ago - shooting down the trespassing bogey. It worked.

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#86

Because Russian's war with Ukraine is unsustainable, something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO. Some other scenarios also explained in this good video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYFSGkaAc

> one option is an escalation with NATO.

Wouldn't this make the situation much worse for Russia, and therefore for him as well? The oligarchs will know who is to blame if Putin starts a war with NATO.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

#87

I hope they don’t send any to Bulgaria. Our PM is waiting exactly this to declare we’re joining the Russian federation.

How are Russian drones entering Bulgarian territory going to give the PM the chance/excuse to join Russia?

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#88
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These are cheap decoy foam drones with less electronics. The amount of fuel decides how far they fly. Favorable wind? They fly further.

> The amount of fuel decides how far they fly. Favorable wind? They fly further. Is this true for non-decoy non-foam drones and basically everything else that flies, even things with solid boosters? Seems like a strange part to add here as it basically applies to aviation in general, replace "fuel" with "stored energy" and literally all type of "vehicle" fits basically.

A non-decoy drone would presumably go no further than its target, at which point any leftover fuel just adds to the fireball. Whereas making a decoy drone go down before the fuel is exhausted is pointless waste, when instead it could be decoying a little bit longer.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

#89

Given how poor their Ukrainian war is going, this is a strange move. I guess it’s mostly just posturing?

Move by whom? Drones straying from the intended route is usually caused by jamming from the other side. Escalating tensions between Russia and NATO is in Ukraine's, not Russia's, interest.

To counter this conspiracy of yours: Ukraine was in a much poorer position in the past and didn't resort to this type of jamming with the hopes of dragging NATO into the conflict. Today, they are in a much stronger position, striking deep into Russia and even the Caspian sea https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/iran-says-ukrainian-att...

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

#90
It's not World War 3. It's just two increasingly overlapping unsolvable wars involving two increasingly coherent geopolitical blocs consisting of dozens of countries spanning three continents, most major nuclear powers holding 95% of global nuclear stockpiles and the vast majority of global military spending and resources, with nuclear-capable cruise, ballistic, and hypersonic missiles flying back and forth, attacks on strategic nuclear early warning systems, threats of nuclear first-use and global nuclear holocaust, etc. Fighting over issues the leaders of the involved superpowers and great powers have described as existential and beyond compromise.

Not World War 3 though, currently.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/26/ukraine-war-br...

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