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Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by anticodon »

miohtama wrote: post #15

Because Russian's war with Ukraine is unsustainable, something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO. Some other scenarios also explained in this good video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYFSGkaAc

What? In other words, you're saying: "Russia is losing war with Ukraine, so it wants to start a second front with bigger enemy".

Also, how's Ukraine war is sustainable for Ukraine? It's economy is non-existent (almost 100% dependent on western donations), it has less than 50% of population of 2022 (they don't publish any population stats directly, but if you combine available statistics, there are about 10-15 millions left most of them old retired people or young people that are too young to send them to the front lines), they are losing territory every day.

This is some weird "Ukraine is winning but front is moving in the wrong direction" logic.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by mike_hock »

Insanity wrote: post #16

Given how poor their Ukrainian war is going, this is a strange move. I guess it’s mostly just posturing?

Move by whom? Drones straying from the intended route is usually caused by jamming from the other side.

Escalating tensions between Russia and NATO is in Ukraine's, not Russia's, interest.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by inglor_cz »

Insanity wrote: post #16

Given how poor their Ukrainian war is going, this is a strange move. I guess it’s mostly just posturing?

It is ye olde reconnaisance by the tip of the bayonet. How long can you prod before someone says "ouch!"

For the case of a hot war, knowing the detection and destruction capabilities of your future enemy is valuable.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by cingraa »

Insanity wrote: post #16

Given how poor their Ukrainian war is going, this is a strange move. I guess it’s mostly just posturing?

These are cheap decoy foam drones with less electronics. The amount of fuel decides how far they fly. Favorable wind? They fly further.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by inglor_cz »

xedrac wrote: post #25
fc417fc802 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't we already have that? It's just a smoulder instead of a conflagration.

Do you feel threatened that Russia and Iran will succeed in conquering all of Europe and the Middle East? I see it more like a couple of misbehaving misfits. That's very different than say, WWII.

Well, not even the Nazis managed to permanently conquer Europe, but the destruction they still wrought on the continent was enormous.

Even a victorious war is destructive. I'd like to do without, but I am just a random hobbit in this regard.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by arcticfox »

romaaeterna wrote: post #30
rwmj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're Shahed drones, used by Russia.

In September the Russians accused the Ukrainians of having repairing downed Geran drone airframes at the Lviv LORTA plant, transferring them to Yavoriv, and launching them unarmed into Poland. They presented various evidence like serial numbers, photographs of silver-tape repairs, claims that a Ukrainian SIM-card was used, lack of impact destruction, etc. What's true though? I don't believe that I have a way to find…

Russian credibility is at ~zero IMO. They've put forth so many insane theories related to this war that they started.

And just on first principles, how stupid would the Ukrainian have to be to do such a thing to their biggest ally? It almost beggars belief.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by cbg0 »

As part of the SAFE EU financial instrument Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament[1]. Currently still relying heavily on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard for anti-air as well as fighter jets with air-to-air missiles, as these recent drones were all brought down by F-16s.

Aside from strategic targets, a lot of the civilian infrastructure is quite vulnerable to drone attacks as there's a huge border to cover and definitely not enough anti-drone tech deployed. An apartment building was hit months ago with no casualties: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/apartment-building-hit-...

[1] https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/media/news-watch/news/2026/06...

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by mcv »

xedrac wrote: post #25
fc417fc802 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't we already have that? It's just a smoulder instead of a conflagration.

Do you feel threatened that Russia and Iran will succeed in conquering all of Europe and the Middle East? I see it more like a couple of misbehaving misfits. That's very different than say, WWII.

The main threat to Europe is if Trump ever makes good on his threats to take Canada and Greenland. If the US turns truly hostile, then Europe has a serious problem. Especially if Putin and Trump decide they want to split Europe between the two of them.

It's a very extreme case, but it would get extremely messy. Putin on his own is something Europe should easily be able to handle as long as they've got Ukraine on their side. Trump's erratic disruptive attacks will hopefully end at some point. I'm not worried about Iran at all, except internally.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by cingraa »

miohtama wrote: post #15

Because Russian's war with Ukraine is unsustainable, something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO. Some other scenarios also explained in this good video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYFSGkaAc

Does not pass the smell test. The Youtuber has an axe to grind. Also, tracking in the URL.

Why make it more difficult if the current situation is unsustainable? Does not make sense.

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